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[74.82.3.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z128sm5837223pgz.69.2020.11.16.12.37.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 16 Nov 2020 12:37:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by johnmacfarlane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 37EF2A18A; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 15:37:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@berkeley-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=ehpTuvdD; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::62a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:26857 Archived-At: FI Apps writes: > I think it's better to carefully choose a solution and change pandoc-type= s > than for SuppressAuthor to have different semantics depending on whether = or > not there's a square bracket in the citation text. That won't be possible anyway -- I realized that by the time we're doing the deNote operation (handling note citations inside notes), the brackets are gone, replaced by a note, and we really can't distinguish the two forms. So we would need a chance to pandoc-types. > I'm not looking for a BareSuppressAuthor, I'm looking for a normal citati= on > in footnote text, which will include the author's name unless it uses ibi= d. Right, I do understand that. I was exploring what could be done without any changes to the syntax of citations, though. > If you don't want to change pandoc-types, there is another possible > solution, which is to not add parentheses to [@foo] in footnotes=E2=80=94= returning > to the 2.10 behavior in that regard. To get parentheses, it would then be > necessary to write [(@foo)], putting the parentheses inside the brackets = so > that the citation processing code can know to adjust the citation > accordingly (as citeproc-js does). Yes, this could be done, but then you won't be able to switch effortlessly between author-date and note styles -- you'd have to know ahead of time that you were working in a note style. (In non-note styles, citeproc itself will add delimiters according to the style, e.g. parens.) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/m2ft5982dm.fsf%40MacBook-Pro.hsd1.ca.comcast.net.