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Try using the nightly, but without a reference-doc. https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/actions/runs/1648435353 "ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" writes: > I just found out by experimentation in macos PowerPoint 16.56 (2021, > Microsoft 365 subscription) something really strange. > > Put the cursor on any of the bullet points, and you see that the bullet > text is all 32pt. > > However, if you now type a single character, all bullet points change > instantly from 32pt to 22pt. > > This has to be a bug somewhere... > >> pandoc --reference-doc ~/.pandoc/templates/default.pptx -s -t pptx > bullet-points.md -o bullet-points.pptx > > and > > --- > title: "test bullets" > author: "me" > --- > > # Simple Slide > > * 1 bullet > * 2 bullets > * 3 bullets > * 4 bullets > * 5 bullets > * 6 bullets > * 7 bullets > * 8 bullets > * 9 bullets > > # Another slide > > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:31:25 PM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote: > >> >> I just tried it, and I got eight bullets on the screen. >> Font size seems to be around 24pt. I think Powerpoint >> scaled it automatically when I changed the aspect ratio. >> >> "ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" writes: >> >> > apologies for all the comments. I am guessing that the 16:9 format is >> > useful only if you / one can also change the defaults for the PowerPoint >> > font sizes. >> > >> > on PowerPoint macos, the default 16:9 font size for first-level bullet >> > points seems to be Calibri 28pt. This means the default vanilla >> > presentation has 8-9 lines of bullet points. >> > >> > on pandoc, the output default font-size for first-level bullet points is >> > Calibri 32pt. >> > >> > - in 4:3, pandoc thus also has about 8-9 lines of bullet points; >> > - in 169, the font remains the same 32pt, which now means only 6-7 lines >> > of bullet points. >> > >> > 6-7 lines is too few IMHO. Ergo, 16:9 output should go with slightly >> > smaller fonts. For reference, the powerpoint defaults that I am getting >> are >> > >> > - title: 60pt >> > - subtitle: 24pt >> > - header title: 44pt, Light >> > - body points, level 1: 28pt >> > - body points, level 2: 24pt >> > >> > regards, /iaw >> > >> > >> > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:01:21 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> I tried to change the default font size in the default (reference) >> pptx, >> >> but pandoc did not pick this one up. :-( >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> mille grazie. >> >>> >> >>> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would >> probably >> >>> be a better default. >> >>> >> >>> the template trick is supercool. I had not realized this. I will try >> to >> >>> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder. Is there a >> >>> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> You can change this by using a reference-doc. >> >>>> >> >>>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx >> >>>> >> >>>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint. >> >>>> >> >>>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio. >> >>>> >> >>>> Save. >> >>>> >> >>>> Now use >> >>>> >> >>>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx >> >>>> >> >>>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. 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