Is $header-includes$ too high in default.latex?

Is $header-includes$ too high in default.latex?

[John Bentley]

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The option `--include-in-header` is specified to "Include contents of FILE, 
verbatim, at the end of the header". 
https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#option--include-in-header

The option `--include-in-header` sets the template variable `$
header-includes$`.

However, in default.latex the `$header-includes` variable is placed quite 
high in the header, preceding quite a number of latex header commands. 
Shouldn't  `$header-includes` be placed just before `\begin{document}`?

My motivation is to override prior default settings. Specifically I'm 
trying to override `\setlength{\csllabelwidth}{3em}` that gets spit out in 
the header when processing citations.

I *can* do this by using --include-before-body/$include-before$ instead. 
But that seems like abusing what should be a content option rather than a 
coding option.

Of course I could alter default.latex at my end, and use a custom default 
template. But I'm trying to avoid that path.

So, is $header-includes$ too high in default.latex?

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Re: Is $header-includes$ too high in default.latex?

[John MacFarlane]

We've put it as late as possible in the template.
The reason it's not at the very end is that some things
really need to be loaded as late as possible -- if you
look at the changes in this template over time, you'll
see that the migration of header-incldes up was driven
by some real problems.

But it might not be optimal; it could be that we've added
some things to the end of the preamble that don't need to
be there.

I know there's a good reason the language-related and
bibi stuff comes before header-includes.  But the csl commands,
natbib/bibtex commands, and csquotes commands maybe could
move up.  We'd need to check the logs to mae sure there's
not a good reason they're there.  go ahead and submit an
issue on the GitHub tracker so we can think more about this.

John Bentley <johnny.bentley-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> The option `--include-in-header` is specified to "Include contents of FILE, 
> verbatim, at the end of the header". 
> https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#option--include-in-header
>
> The option `--include-in-header` sets the template variable `$
> header-includes$`.
>
> However, in default.latex the `$header-includes` variable is placed quite 
> high in the header, preceding quite a number of latex header commands. 
> Shouldn't  `$header-includes` be placed just before `\begin{document}`?
>
> My motivation is to override prior default settings. Specifically I'm 
> trying to override `\setlength{\csllabelwidth}{3em}` that gets spit out in 
> the header when processing citations.
>
> I *can* do this by using --include-before-body/$include-before$ instead. 
> But that seems like abusing what should be a content option rather than a 
> coding option.
>
> Of course I could alter default.latex at my end, and use a custom default 
> template. But I'm trying to avoid that path.
>
> So, is $header-includes$ too high in default.latex?
>
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