Re: issue with "see also" of same and different author

[John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>]

As I noted on the issue, citeproc already does include code
blocking sorting that rearranges prefixes, but this seems not
to work in the case where there is also collapsing (of citations
by same author).  I have to look into why.  Disabling collapsing
in your style could thus be one workaround, though it would mean
that you didn't get collapsing elsewhere.



"'Jan' via pandoc-discuss" <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
writes:

> Thanks so much, John, I opened an issue on github. 
>
> In the meanwhile, as a workaround, is there a way to disable sorting for 
> CMS?   
>
> On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 10:28:39 PM UTC-7 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> The issue won't arise if you use a style that doesn't sort
>> citations, obviously, but that may not be an option here.
>>
>> I have a vague memory that this issue has come up before
>> in pandoc-citeproc or in CSL, and that there was some solution.
>>
>> Yes: https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc/issues/292
>>
>> Here is the fix I implemented in pandoc-citeproc:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc/commit/31b463a939d4878d4c83c318976b66d723e70bf5
>>
>> It's not in the CSL spec, so maybe it's not appropriate to
>> modify citeproc to behave this way, but it sure is tempting.
>> So if you feel like putting up a bug report on jgm/citeproc
>> with links to the URLs mentioned above, please go ahead.
>>
>>
>> "'Jan' via pandoc-discuss" <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
>> writes:
>>
>> > Hi all, 
>> >
>> > I have a quick question. 
>> > I'm processing for Chicago Manual of style author date format. 
>> > pandoc -t docx --csl=.pandoc/csl/chicago-author-date.csl 
>> >
>> > I'm using the following syntax 
>> > [@Heller:2007i, 10; see also @Gal:1987; @Heller:1989]. 
>> >
>> > for a citation that I want to render as
>> > (Heller 2007, 10; see also Gal 1987; Heller 1989) 
>> >
>> > what it does, it gives me: 
>> > (Heller 2007, 10, 1989; see also Gal 1987) 
>> >
>> > So it moves the Heller 1989 up front to join the first citation of the 
>> same 
>> > author and then, obviously deletes the author last name. 
>> > Is there any way to prevent that (only for this citation)? 
>> > As the other Heller citation should come after the "see also".
>> >
>> > Help much appreciated!
>> >
>> > all best
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> >
>> >
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