powerpoint output to 169 format?

powerpoint output to 169 format?

[ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org]

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The pandoc powerpoint driver seems to prefer 4:3.  The powerpoint default 
is 16:9 these days.  Is there a way for powerpoint not to set 4:3?


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Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

[John MacFarlane]

You can change this by using a reference-doc.

pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 

Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint.

Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio.

Save.

Now use

pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx

Maybe we should change the default to 16:9.  Comments welcome on
this.

Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

[ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org]

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mille grazie.

given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would probably 
be a better default.

the template trick is supercool.  I had not realized this.  I will try to 
stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder.  Is there a 
standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?


On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:

>
> You can change this by using a reference-doc.
>
> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
>
> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint.
>
> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio.
>
> Save.
>
> Now use
>
> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx
>
> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on
> this.
>

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Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

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I tried to change the default font size in the default (reference) pptx, 
but pandoc did not pick this one up.  :-(


On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:

>
> mille grazie.
>
> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would probably 
> be a better default.
>
> the template trick is supercool.  I had not realized this.  I will try to 
> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder.  Is there a 
> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?
>
>
> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> You can change this by using a reference-doc.
>>
>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
>>
>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint.
>>
>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio.
>>
>> Save.
>>
>> Now use
>>
>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx
>>
>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on
>> this.
>>
>

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Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

[John MacFarlane]

I've switched the default aspect ratio to 16:9.

"ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo.welch-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org> writes:

> mille grazie.
>
> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would probably 
> be a better default.
>
> the template trick is supercool.  I had not realized this.  I will try to 
> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder.  Is there a 
> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?
>
>
> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> You can change this by using a reference-doc.
>>
>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
>>
>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint.
>>
>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio.
>>
>> Save.
>>
>> Now use
>>
>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx
>>
>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on
>> this.
>>
>
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Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

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apologies for all the comments.  I am guessing that the 16:9 format is 
useful only if you / one can also change the defaults for the PowerPoint 
font sizes.

on PowerPoint macos, the default 16:9 font size for first-level bullet 
points seems to be Calibri 28pt.  This means the default vanilla 
presentation has 8-9 lines of bullet points.

on pandoc, the output default font-size for first-level bullet points is 
Calibri 32pt.

  - in 4:3, pandoc thus also has about 8-9 lines of bullet points;
  - in 169, the font remains the same 32pt, which now means only 6-7 lines 
of bullet points.

6-7 lines is too few IMHO.  Ergo, 16:9 output should go with slightly 
smaller fonts.  For reference, the powerpoint defaults that I am getting are

- title: 60pt
- subtitle: 24pt
- header title: 44pt, Light
- body points, level 1: 28pt
- body points, level 2: 24pt

regards, /iaw


On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:01:21 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:

>
> I tried to change the default font size in the default (reference) pptx, 
> but pandoc did not pick this one up.  :-(
>
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>>
>> mille grazie.
>>
>> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would probably 
>> be a better default.
>>
>> the template trick is supercool.  I had not realized this.  I will try to 
>> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder.  Is there a 
>> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You can change this by using a reference-doc. 
>>>
>>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
>>>
>>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint. 
>>>
>>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio. 
>>>
>>> Save. 
>>>
>>> Now use 
>>>
>>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx 
>>>
>>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on 
>>> this. 
>>>
>>

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Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

[John MacFarlane]

I just tried it, and I got eight bullets on the screen.
Font size seems to be around 24pt. I think Powerpoint
scaled it automatically when I changed the aspect ratio.

"ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo.welch-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org> writes:

> apologies for all the comments.  I am guessing that the 16:9 format is 
> useful only if you / one can also change the defaults for the PowerPoint 
> font sizes.
>
> on PowerPoint macos, the default 16:9 font size for first-level bullet 
> points seems to be Calibri 28pt.  This means the default vanilla 
> presentation has 8-9 lines of bullet points.
>
> on pandoc, the output default font-size for first-level bullet points is 
> Calibri 32pt.
>
>   - in 4:3, pandoc thus also has about 8-9 lines of bullet points;
>   - in 169, the font remains the same 32pt, which now means only 6-7 lines 
> of bullet points.
>
> 6-7 lines is too few IMHO.  Ergo, 16:9 output should go with slightly 
> smaller fonts.  For reference, the powerpoint defaults that I am getting are
>
> - title: 60pt
> - subtitle: 24pt
> - header title: 44pt, Light
> - body points, level 1: 28pt
> - body points, level 2: 24pt
>
> regards, /iaw
>
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:01:21 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>>
>> I tried to change the default font size in the default (reference) pptx, 
>> but pandoc did not pick this one up.  :-(
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> mille grazie.
>>>
>>> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would probably 
>>> be a better default.
>>>
>>> the template trick is supercool.  I had not realized this.  I will try to 
>>> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder.  Is there a 
>>> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can change this by using a reference-doc. 
>>>>
>>>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
>>>>
>>>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint. 
>>>>
>>>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio. 
>>>>
>>>> Save. 
>>>>
>>>> Now use 
>>>>
>>>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx 
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on 
>>>> this. 
>>>>
>>>
>
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Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

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I just found out by experimentation in macos PowerPoint 16.56 (2021, 
Microsoft 365 subscription) something really strange.

Put the cursor on any of the bullet points, and you see that the bullet 
text is all 32pt.

However, if you now type a single character, all bullet points change 
instantly from 32pt to 22pt.

This has to be a bug somewhere...

> pandoc --reference-doc ~/.pandoc/templates/default.pptx -s -t pptx 
bullet-points.md -o bullet-points.pptx

and

---
title: "test bullets"
author: "me"
---

# Simple Slide

* 1 bullet
* 2 bullets
* 3 bullets
* 4 bullets
* 5 bullets
* 6 bullets
* 7 bullets
* 8 bullets
* 9 bullets

# Another slide

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:31:25 PM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:

>
> I just tried it, and I got eight bullets on the screen.
> Font size seems to be around 24pt. I think Powerpoint
> scaled it automatically when I changed the aspect ratio.
>
> "ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > apologies for all the comments. I am guessing that the 16:9 format is 
> > useful only if you / one can also change the defaults for the PowerPoint 
> > font sizes.
> >
> > on PowerPoint macos, the default 16:9 font size for first-level bullet 
> > points seems to be Calibri 28pt. This means the default vanilla 
> > presentation has 8-9 lines of bullet points.
> >
> > on pandoc, the output default font-size for first-level bullet points is 
> > Calibri 32pt.
> >
> > - in 4:3, pandoc thus also has about 8-9 lines of bullet points;
> > - in 169, the font remains the same 32pt, which now means only 6-7 lines 
> > of bullet points.
> >
> > 6-7 lines is too few IMHO. Ergo, 16:9 output should go with slightly 
> > smaller fonts. For reference, the powerpoint defaults that I am getting 
> are
> >
> > - title: 60pt
> > - subtitle: 24pt
> > - header title: 44pt, Light
> > - body points, level 1: 28pt
> > - body points, level 2: 24pt
> >
> > regards, /iaw
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:01:21 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I tried to change the default font size in the default (reference) 
> pptx, 
> >> but pandoc did not pick this one up. :-(
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> mille grazie.
> >>>
> >>> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would 
> probably 
> >>> be a better default.
> >>>
> >>> the template trick is supercool. I had not realized this. I will try 
> to 
> >>> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder. Is there a 
> >>> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You can change this by using a reference-doc. 
> >>>>
> >>>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
> >>>>
> >>>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint. 
> >>>>
> >>>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio. 
> >>>>
> >>>> Save. 
> >>>>
> >>>> Now use 
> >>>>
> >>>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx 
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on 
> >>>> this. 
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
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Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

[John MacFarlane]

Are you using the dev version?  Try using the nightly,
but without a reference-doc.
https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/actions/runs/1648435353

"ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo.welch-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org> writes:

> I just found out by experimentation in macos PowerPoint 16.56 (2021, 
> Microsoft 365 subscription) something really strange.
>
> Put the cursor on any of the bullet points, and you see that the bullet 
> text is all 32pt.
>
> However, if you now type a single character, all bullet points change 
> instantly from 32pt to 22pt.
>
> This has to be a bug somewhere...
>
>> pandoc --reference-doc ~/.pandoc/templates/default.pptx -s -t pptx 
> bullet-points.md -o bullet-points.pptx
>
> and
>
> ---
> title: "test bullets"
> author: "me"
> ---
>
> # Simple Slide
>
> * 1 bullet
> * 2 bullets
> * 3 bullets
> * 4 bullets
> * 5 bullets
> * 6 bullets
> * 7 bullets
> * 8 bullets
> * 9 bullets
>
> # Another slide
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:31:25 PM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> I just tried it, and I got eight bullets on the screen.
>> Font size seems to be around 24pt. I think Powerpoint
>> scaled it automatically when I changed the aspect ratio.
>>
>> "ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > apologies for all the comments. I am guessing that the 16:9 format is 
>> > useful only if you / one can also change the defaults for the PowerPoint 
>> > font sizes.
>> >
>> > on PowerPoint macos, the default 16:9 font size for first-level bullet 
>> > points seems to be Calibri 28pt. This means the default vanilla 
>> > presentation has 8-9 lines of bullet points.
>> >
>> > on pandoc, the output default font-size for first-level bullet points is 
>> > Calibri 32pt.
>> >
>> > - in 4:3, pandoc thus also has about 8-9 lines of bullet points;
>> > - in 169, the font remains the same 32pt, which now means only 6-7 lines 
>> > of bullet points.
>> >
>> > 6-7 lines is too few IMHO. Ergo, 16:9 output should go with slightly 
>> > smaller fonts. For reference, the powerpoint defaults that I am getting 
>> are
>> >
>> > - title: 60pt
>> > - subtitle: 24pt
>> > - header title: 44pt, Light
>> > - body points, level 1: 28pt
>> > - body points, level 2: 24pt
>> >
>> > regards, /iaw
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:01:21 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I tried to change the default font size in the default (reference) 
>> pptx, 
>> >> but pandoc did not pick this one up. :-(
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> mille grazie.
>> >>>
>> >>> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would 
>> probably 
>> >>> be a better default.
>> >>>
>> >>> the template trick is supercool. I had not realized this. I will try 
>> to 
>> >>> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder. Is there a 
>> >>> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane 
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You can change this by using a reference-doc. 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint. 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio. 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Save. 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Now use 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on 
>> >>>> this. 
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >
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Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?

[ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org]

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the overnight build works great!  it has fixed the issue.  mille grazie, 
john.

best, /iaw


On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 10:55:02 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:

>
> Are you using the dev version? Try using the nightly,
> but without a reference-doc.
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/actions/runs/1648435353
>
> "ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > I just found out by experimentation in macos PowerPoint 16.56 (2021, 
> > Microsoft 365 subscription) something really strange.
> >
> > Put the cursor on any of the bullet points, and you see that the bullet 
> > text is all 32pt.
> >
> > However, if you now type a single character, all bullet points change 
> > instantly from 32pt to 22pt.
> >
> > This has to be a bug somewhere...
> >
> >> pandoc --reference-doc ~/.pandoc/templates/default.pptx -s -t pptx 
> > bullet-points.md -o bullet-points.pptx
> >
> > and
> >
> > ---
> > title: "test bullets"
> > author: "me"
> > ---
> >
> > # Simple Slide
> >
> > * 1 bullet
> > * 2 bullets
> > * 3 bullets
> > * 4 bullets
> > * 5 bullets
> > * 6 bullets
> > * 7 bullets
> > * 8 bullets
> > * 9 bullets
> >
> > # Another slide
> >
> > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:31:25 PM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I just tried it, and I got eight bullets on the screen.
> >> Font size seems to be around 24pt. I think Powerpoint
> >> scaled it automatically when I changed the aspect ratio.
> >>
> >> "ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >>
> >> > apologies for all the comments. I am guessing that the 16:9 format is 
> >> > useful only if you / one can also change the defaults for the 
> PowerPoint 
> >> > font sizes.
> >> >
> >> > on PowerPoint macos, the default 16:9 font size for first-level 
> bullet 
> >> > points seems to be Calibri 28pt. This means the default vanilla 
> >> > presentation has 8-9 lines of bullet points.
> >> >
> >> > on pandoc, the output default font-size for first-level bullet points 
> is 
> >> > Calibri 32pt.
> >> >
> >> > - in 4:3, pandoc thus also has about 8-9 lines of bullet points;
> >> > - in 169, the font remains the same 32pt, which now means only 6-7 
> lines 
> >> > of bullet points.
> >> >
> >> > 6-7 lines is too few IMHO. Ergo, 16:9 output should go with slightly 
> >> > smaller fonts. For reference, the powerpoint defaults that I am 
> getting 
> >> are
> >> >
> >> > - title: 60pt
> >> > - subtitle: 24pt
> >> > - header title: 44pt, Light
> >> > - body points, level 1: 28pt
> >> > - body points, level 2: 24pt
> >> >
> >> > regards, /iaw
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:01:21 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried to change the default font size in the default (reference) 
> >> pptx, 
> >> >> but pandoc did not pick this one up. :-(
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> mille grazie.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would 
> >> probably 
> >> >>> be a better default.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> the template trick is supercool. I had not realized this. I will 
> try 
> >> to 
> >> >>> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder. Is there 
> a 
> >> >>> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane 
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> You can change this by using a reference-doc. 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint. 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio. 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Save. 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Now use 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on 
> >> >>>> this. 
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
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