From: John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
To: "T. Kurt Bond"
<tkurtbond-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Turn off headers for Mac OS clipboard content output in HTML?
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 11:23:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2o84zz04m.fsf@MacBook-Pro-2.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN1EhV-+rH3p-Oj113nxCm=Sc8M8hKk1Rjci-sXoHMOYHC6CyA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
If you use 'pandoc -f commonmark -t html' then or
'pandoc -f gfm -t html' or 'pandoc -f commonmark_x -t html'
then the doctype will be treated as raw HTML.
"T. Kurt Bond" <tkurtbond-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> If you don't specify an input format, pandoc assumes markdown input, and
> while markdown allows literal inclusions of HTML elements, it apparently
> doesn't allow DOCTYPE declarations, so it does not consider that to be
> HTML, and translates the angle brackets into character entities.
>
> $ echo '<!DOCTYPE html><ol><li>Bogus</li></ol>' | pandoc -t html
> <!DOCTYPE html>
> <ol>
> <li>
> Bogus
> </li>
> </ol>
>
> However, if you add "-r html" everything is fine:
>
> $ echo '<!DOCTYPE html><ol><li>Bogus</li></ol>' | pandoc -r html -t html
> <ol>
> <li>Bogus</li>
> </ol>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:19 AM philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org <philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your assistance! Indeed, I misread the situation, though the
>> outcome is still strange. The HTML I am starting with in my clipboard is a
>> complete document with a doctype declaration. The first line is:
>>
>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>>
>> Pandoc (pandoc -t html+smart) converts the angle brackets into HTML
>> entity names:
>>
>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN” “
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd”>
>>
>> Later on in my process, the content gets converted to RTF using textutil,
>> which removes doctype declarations but retains the line above, converting
>> the entity names back into angle brackets—which is how I got the idea that
>> Pandoc had put it there.
>>
>> I am not sure why my Pandoc command converts the angle brackets in that
>> first line—it leaves the other angle brackets in the document alone—but I
>> can just remove that line from the clipboard text before processing it with
>> Pandoc, so no problem.
>> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 10:48:46 AM UTC-5 tkur...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When standalone is not specified, pandoc typically outputs fragments
>>> rather than a complete document. This is convenient for the case where you
>>> are processing multiple fragments into one document. (This happens in HTML
>>> output but also in other output; groff -ms, ConTeXt, LaTeX.) So normal
>>> HTML output I see when I don't specify standalone does *not* include the
>>> doctype.
>>>
>>> $ echo '* Bogus' | pandoc -r rst -w html
>>> <ul>
>>> <li>Bogus</li>
>>> </ul>
>>>
>>> This is with pandoc 2.16.2, installed with homebrew.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 9:33 AM Joseph Reagle <josep...-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The doctype declaration is a standard HTML feature and declares the
>>>> version of the HTML. Pandoc, especially in `--standalone` mode includes
>>>> these at the start of an HTML document.
>>>>
>>>> I'm confused, however. You haven't specified standalone mode. (And why
>>>> would you want them removed in any case?) And the behavior you are
>>>> describing doesn't correspond to recent versions -- I'm using 2.16.2. I'm
>>>> not sure when/if pandoc last used HTML4.01 strict.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, you could create your own HTML template, without a doctype
>>>> declaration.
>>>>
>>>> https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>>>
>>>> On 21-12-27 15:04, phi...-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>>> > I am using Pandoc to convert dumb quotes to smart quotes in HTML. The
>>>> HTML is on my MacOS clipboard:
>>>> >
>>>> > pbpaste | pandoc -t html+smart | pbcopy
>>>> >
>>>> > The output begins with
>>>> >
>>>> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN” “
>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd”>
>>>> >
>>>> > and a blank line.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is it possible to turn this off?
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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2021-12-27 20:04 philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA
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2021-12-28 14:33 ` Joseph Reagle
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2021-12-28 15:48 ` T. Kurt Bond
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2021-12-28 16:19 ` philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA
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2021-12-28 16:24 ` jeremy theler
2021-12-28 16:26 ` T. Kurt Bond
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2021-12-28 16:32 ` philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA
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2021-12-28 16:38 ` T. Kurt Bond
2021-12-29 19:23 ` John MacFarlane [this message]
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