* Missing space before note in bibliography
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With the ConTeXt and Docx writers (at least) a space is not inserted before
the note in reference entries when using an annotated style.
Using apa-annotated-bibliography and the following markdown file:
---
references:
- type: article-journal
id: WatsonCrick1953
author:
- family: Watson
given: J. D.
- family: Crick
given: F. H. C.
issued:
date-parts:
- - 1953
- 4
- 25
title: 'Molecular structure of nucleic acids: a structure for
deoxyribose nucleic acid'
title-short: Molecular structure of nucleic acids
container-title: Nature
volume: 171
issue: 4356
page: 737-738
DOI: 10.1038/171737a0
URL: https://www.nature.com/articles/171737a0
language: en-GB
note: Note this!
nocite: |
@*
...
the docx result is:
[image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 140026.png]
This also occurs with the chicago-annotated-bibliography csl file and so
does not appear to be related to the csl file itself.
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* Re: Missing space before note in bibliography
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-05-31 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org, pandoc-discuss
I may have made a mistake in implementing citeproc, but as far
as I can see, the chicago-annotated-bibliography doesn't call
for a space here. The structure is
<layout suffix=".">
<group delimiter=". ">
(omitted elements)
</group>
<text variable="note" display="block"/>
</layout>
So, this calls for a ". " between each of (omitted elements),
but the note comes after this group and isn't subject to that
delimiter. This could be fixed with a prefix=" " on the
text element there. But undoubtedly there's some citeproc
subtlety I'm missing...can any CSL experts comment on this?
"amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org" <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> With the ConTeXt and Docx writers (at least) a space is not inserted before
> the note in reference entries when using an annotated style.
>
> Using apa-annotated-bibliography and the following markdown file:
>
> ---
> references:
> - type: article-journal
> id: WatsonCrick1953
> author:
> - family: Watson
> given: J. D.
> - family: Crick
> given: F. H. C.
> issued:
> date-parts:
> - - 1953
> - 4
> - 25
> title: 'Molecular structure of nucleic acids: a structure for
> deoxyribose nucleic acid'
> title-short: Molecular structure of nucleic acids
> container-title: Nature
> volume: 171
> issue: 4356
> page: 737-738
> DOI: 10.1038/171737a0
> URL: https://www.nature.com/articles/171737a0
> language: en-GB
> note: Note this!
> nocite: |
> @*
> ...
>
> the docx result is:
>
> [image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 140026.png]
> This also occurs with the chicago-annotated-bibliography csl file and so
> does not appear to be related to the csl file itself.
>
> --
> Rik
>
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Hi,
it's the `display="block"` attribute.
This is what Zotero/Word gives me:
[cid:image001.png-PN+g0PreyX4x5RppSkBQnjRmByFHzeGd@public.gmane.org]
The period on its own line is probably a bit odd, but the note field («Blablablabla bla») happens to be on its own line as well.
Best
Denis
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> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
> Betreff: Re: Missing space before note in bibliography
>
>
> I may have made a mistake in implementing citeproc, but as far as I can see,
> the chicago-annotated-bibliography doesn't call for a space here. The
> structure is
>
> <layout suffix=".">
> <group delimiter=". ">
> (omitted elements)
> </group>
> <text variable="note" display="block"/> </layout>
>
> So, this calls for a ". " between each of (omitted elements), but the note
> comes after this group and isn't subject to that delimiter. This could be fixed
> with a prefix=" " on the text element there. But undoubtedly there's some
> citeproc subtlety I'm missing...can any CSL experts comment on this?
>
>
> "amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>" <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>> writes:
>
> > With the ConTeXt and Docx writers (at least) a space is not inserted
> > before the note in reference entries when using an annotated style.
> >
> > Using apa-annotated-bibliography and the following markdown file:
> >
> > ---
> > references:
> > - type: article-journal
> > id: WatsonCrick1953
> > author:
> > - family: Watson
> > given: J. D.
> > - family: Crick
> > given: F. H. C.
> > issued:
> > date-parts:
> > - - 1953
> > - 4
> > - 25
> > title: 'Molecular structure of nucleic acids: a structure for
> > deoxyribose nucleic acid'
> > title-short: Molecular structure of nucleic acids
> > container-title: Nature
> > volume: 171
> > issue: 4356
> > page: 737-738
> > DOI: 10.1038/171737a0
> > URL: https://www.nature.com/articles/171737a0
> > language: en-GB
> > note: Note this!
> > nocite: |
> > @*
> > ...
> >
> > the docx result is:
> >
> > [image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 140026.png] This also occurs with the
> > chicago-annotated-bibliography csl file and so does not appear to be
> > related to the csl file itself.
> >
> > --
> > Rik
> >
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-06-03 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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By the way:
LaTeX output:
```
\hypertarget{refs}{}
\begin{CSLReferences}{1}{0}
\leavevmode\hypertarget{ref-WatsonCrick1953}{}%
Watson, J. D., and F. H. C. Crick. {``Molecular Structure of Nucleic
Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid.''} \emph{Nature} 171,
no. 4356 (April 25, 1953): 737--38.
\url{https://doi.org/10.1038/171737a0}
\CSLBlock{Note this!}
\end{CSLReferences}
```
LaTeX-PDF-output:
[cid:image002.png-CHo9vTACyokc1+EJhHVJpDRmByFHzeGd@public.gmane.org]
So, although `\CSLBLock` seems to be defined, it has no visible consequence in the output.
ConTeXt-output:
```
\startcslreferences
\reference[ref-WatsonCrick1953]{}%
Watson, J. D., and F. H. C. Crick. “Molecular Structure of Nucleic
Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid.” {\em Nature} 171, no.
4356 (April 25, 1953): 737--38.
\useURL[url1][https://doi.org/10.1038/171737a0]\from[url1]Note this!
\stopcslreferences
```
The ConTeXt-writer does not use a \CSLBlock or similar.
Best,
Denis
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Hi,
it's the `display="block"` attribute.
This is what Zotero/Word gives me:
[cid:image001.png-CHo9vTACyomN36iCe4j70zRmByFHzeGd@public.gmane.org]
The period on its own line is probably a bit odd, but the note field («Blablablabla bla») happens to be on its own line as well.
Best
Denis
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> Gesendet: Montag, 31. Mai 2021 22:54
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> Betreff: Re: Missing space before note in bibliography
>
>
> I may have made a mistake in implementing citeproc, but as far as I can see,
> the chicago-annotated-bibliography doesn't call for a space here. The
> structure is
>
> <layout suffix=".">
> <group delimiter=". ">
> (omitted elements)
> </group>
> <text variable="note" display="block"/> </layout>
>
> So, this calls for a ". " between each of (omitted elements), but the note
> comes after this group and isn't subject to that delimiter. This could be fixed
> with a prefix=" " on the text element there. But undoubtedly there's some
> citeproc subtlety I'm missing...can any CSL experts comment on this?
>
>
> "amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>" <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>> writes:
>
> > With the ConTeXt and Docx writers (at least) a space is not inserted
> > before the note in reference entries when using an annotated style.
> >
> > Using apa-annotated-bibliography and the following markdown file:
> >
> > ---
> > references:
> > - type: article-journal
> > id: WatsonCrick1953
> > author:
> > - family: Watson
> > given: J. D.
> > - family: Crick
> > given: F. H. C.
> > issued:
> > date-parts:
> > - - 1953
> > - 4
> > - 25
> > title: 'Molecular structure of nucleic acids: a structure for
> > deoxyribose nucleic acid'
> > title-short: Molecular structure of nucleic acids
> > container-title: Nature
> > volume: 171
> > issue: 4356
> > page: 737-738
> > DOI: 10.1038/171737a0
> > URL: https://www.nature.com/articles/171737a0
> > language: en-GB
> > note: Note this!
> > nocite: |
> > @*
> > ...
> >
> > the docx result is:
> >
> > [image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 140026.png] This also occurs with the
> > chicago-annotated-bibliography csl file and so does not appear to be
> > related to the csl file itself.
> >
> > --
> > Rik
> >
> > --
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\\On LaTeX:
\CSLBlock is defined as
\newcommand{\CSLBlock}[1]{#1\hfill\break}
That explains why it has no visible output in this case:
This code will fill the current line after the input, but it will not move the element to the next line.
Now, chicago-annotated-bibliography.csl does not follow the advice given in the CSL specification :
« If used, all rendering elements should be under the control of a display attribute."
So, I guess the elements before the note should have a display attribute as well, but we may also consider whether
\newcommand{\CSLBlock}[1]{\linebreak#1\hfill\break}
or something similar might be an option...
Denis
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By the way:
LaTeX output:
```
\hypertarget{refs}{}
\begin{CSLReferences}{1}{0}
\leavevmode\hypertarget{ref-WatsonCrick1953}{}%
Watson, J. D., and F. H. C. Crick. {``Molecular Structure of Nucleic
Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid.''} \emph{Nature} 171,
no. 4356 (April 25, 1953): 737--38.
\url{https://doi.org/10.1038/171737a0}
\CSLBlock{Note this!}
\end{CSLReferences}
```
LaTeX-PDF-output:
[cid:image002.png-CHo9vTACyomUumPdLrUgUjRmByFHzeGd@public.gmane.org]
So, although `\CSLBLock` seems to be defined, it has no visible consequence in the output.
ConTeXt-output:
```
\startcslreferences
\reference[ref-WatsonCrick1953]{}%
Watson, J. D., and F. H. C. Crick. “Molecular Structure of Nucleic
Acids: A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid.” {\em Nature} 171, no.
4356 (April 25, 1953): 737--38.
\useURL[url1][https://doi.org/10.1038/171737a0]\from[url1]Note this!
\stopcslreferences
```
The ConTeXt-writer does not use a \CSLBlock or similar.
Best,
Denis
Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>> Im Auftrag von denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org<mailto:denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Juni 2021 12:33
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Betreff: AW: Missing space before note in bibliography
Hi,
it's the `display="block"` attribute.
This is what Zotero/Word gives me:
[cid:image003.png-CHo9vTACyomUumPdLrUgUjRmByFHzeGd@public.gmane.org]
The period on its own line is probably a bit odd, but the note field («Blablablabla bla») happens to be on its own line as well.
Best
Denis
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> Gesendet: Montag, 31. Mai 2021 22:54
> An: amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>>; pandoc-discuss <pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<mailto:discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>>
> Betreff: Re: Missing space before note in bibliography
>
>
> I may have made a mistake in implementing citeproc, but as far as I can see,
> the chicago-annotated-bibliography doesn't call for a space here. The
> structure is
>
> <layout suffix=".">
> <group delimiter=". ">
> (omitted elements)
> </group>
> <text variable="note" display="block"/> </layout>
>
> So, this calls for a ". " between each of (omitted elements), but the note
> comes after this group and isn't subject to that delimiter. This could be fixed
> with a prefix=" " on the text element there. But undoubtedly there's some
> citeproc subtlety I'm missing...can any CSL experts comment on this?
>
>
> "amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>" <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>> writes:
>
> > With the ConTeXt and Docx writers (at least) a space is not inserted
> > before the note in reference entries when using an annotated style.
> >
> > Using apa-annotated-bibliography and the following markdown file:
> >
> > ---
> > references:
> > - type: article-journal
> > id: WatsonCrick1953
> > author:
> > - family: Watson
> > given: J. D.
> > - family: Crick
> > given: F. H. C.
> > issued:
> > date-parts:
> > - - 1953
> > - 4
> > - 25
> > title: 'Molecular structure of nucleic acids: a structure for
> > deoxyribose nucleic acid'
> > title-short: Molecular structure of nucleic acids
> > container-title: Nature
> > volume: 171
> > issue: 4356
> > page: 737-738
> > DOI: 10.1038/171737a0
> > URL: https://www.nature.com/articles/171737a0
> > language: en-GB
> > note: Note this!
> > nocite: |
> > @*
> > ...
> >
> > the docx result is:
> >
> > [image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 140026.png] This also occurs with the
> > chicago-annotated-bibliography csl file and so does not appear to be
> > related to the csl file itself.
> >
> > --
> > Rik
> >
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* Re: AW: Missing space before note in bibliography
[not found] ` <a9c6df44728742eda4dfff424edcdcab-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-03 10:38 ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
@ 2021-06-05 20:45 ` John MacFarlane
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1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-06-05 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ,
pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw,
amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
Ah yes. Can someone create an issue on our tracker?
https://github.com/jgm/citeproc
<denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> it's the `display="block"` attribute.
>
>
>
> This is what Zotero/Word gives me:
>
>
>
> [cid:image001.png-PN+g0PreyX4x5RppSkBQnjRmByFHzeGd@public.gmane.org]
>
>
>
> The period on its own line is probably a bit odd, but the note field («Blablablabla bla») happens to be on its own line as well.
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Denis
>
>
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>
>> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
>
>> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von John MacFarlane
>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 31. Mai 2021 22:54
>
>> An: amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-discuss <pandoc-
>
>> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
>
>> Betreff: Re: Missing space before note in bibliography
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> I may have made a mistake in implementing citeproc, but as far as I can see,
>
>> the chicago-annotated-bibliography doesn't call for a space here. The
>
>> structure is
>
>>
>
>> <layout suffix=".">
>
>> <group delimiter=". ">
>
>> (omitted elements)
>
>> </group>
>
>> <text variable="note" display="block"/> </layout>
>
>>
>
>> So, this calls for a ". " between each of (omitted elements), but the note
>
>> comes after this group and isn't subject to that delimiter. This could be fixed
>
>> with a prefix=" " on the text element there. But undoubtedly there's some
>
>> citeproc subtlety I'm missing...can any CSL experts comment on this?
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> "amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>" <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>> writes:
>
>>
>
>> > With the ConTeXt and Docx writers (at least) a space is not inserted
>
>> > before the note in reference entries when using an annotated style.
>
>> >
>
>> > Using apa-annotated-bibliography and the following markdown file:
>
>> >
>
>> > ---
>
>> > references:
>
>> > - type: article-journal
>
>> > id: WatsonCrick1953
>
>> > author:
>
>> > - family: Watson
>
>> > given: J. D.
>
>> > - family: Crick
>
>> > given: F. H. C.
>
>> > issued:
>
>> > date-parts:
>
>> > - - 1953
>
>> > - 4
>
>> > - 25
>
>> > title: 'Molecular structure of nucleic acids: a structure for
>
>> > deoxyribose nucleic acid'
>
>> > title-short: Molecular structure of nucleic acids
>
>> > container-title: Nature
>
>> > volume: 171
>
>> > issue: 4356
>
>> > page: 737-738
>
>> > DOI: 10.1038/171737a0
>
>> > URL: https://www.nature.com/articles/171737a0
>
>> > language: en-GB
>
>> > note: Note this!
>
>> > nocite: |
>
>> > @*
>
>> > ...
>
>> >
>
>> > the docx result is:
>
>> >
>
>> > [image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 140026.png] This also occurs with the
>
>> > chicago-annotated-bibliography csl file and so does not appear to be
>
>> > related to the csl file itself.
>
>> >
>
>> > --
>
>> > Rik
>
>> >
>
>> > --
>
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>> > To view this discussion on the web visit
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* AW: AW: Missing space before note in bibliography
[not found] ` <m25yysxcqa.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
@ 2021-06-07 10:04 ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-06-07 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
Done. I've added it to the pandoc issue tracker because this is likely a pandoc issue.
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von John MacFarlane
> Gesendet: Samstag, 5. Juni 2021 22:45
> An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: Missing space before note in bibliography
>
>
> Ah yes. Can someone create an issue on our tracker?
> https://github.com/jgm/citeproc
>
>
> <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > it's the `display="block"` attribute.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is what Zotero/Word gives me:
> >
> >
> >
> > [cid:image001.png-PN+g0PreyX4x5RppSkBQnjRmByFHzeGd@public.gmane.org]
> >
> >
> >
> > The period on its own line is probably a bit odd, but the note field
> («Blablablabla bla») happens to be on its own line as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >
> >> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> >
> >> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von John MacFarlane
> >
> >> Gesendet: Montag, 31. Mai 2021 22:54
> >
> >> An: amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-discuss
> <pandoc-
> >
> >> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> Betreff: Re: Missing space before note in bibliography
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I may have made a mistake in implementing citeproc, but as far as I can
> see,
> >
> >> the chicago-annotated-bibliography doesn't call for a space here. The
> >
> >> structure is
> >
> >>
> >
> >> <layout suffix=".">
> >
> >> <group delimiter=". ">
> >
> >> (omitted elements)
> >
> >> </group>
> >
> >> <text variable="note" display="block"/> </layout>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> So, this calls for a ". " between each of (omitted elements), but the note
> >
> >> comes after this group and isn't subject to that delimiter. This could be
> fixed
> >
> >> with a prefix=" " on the text element there. But undoubtedly there's
> some
> >
> >> citeproc subtlety I'm missing...can any CSL experts comment on this?
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> "amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>"
> <amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<mailto:amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>> writes:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> > With the ConTeXt and Docx writers (at least) a space is not inserted
> >
> >> > before the note in reference entries when using an annotated style.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Using apa-annotated-bibliography and the following markdown file:
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > ---
> >
> >> > references:
> >
> >> > - type: article-journal
> >
> >> > id: WatsonCrick1953
> >
> >> > author:
> >
> >> > - family: Watson
> >
> >> > given: J. D.
> >
> >> > - family: Crick
> >
> >> > given: F. H. C.
> >
> >> > issued:
> >
> >> > date-parts:
> >
> >> > - - 1953
> >
> >> > - 4
> >
> >> > - 25
> >
> >> > title: 'Molecular structure of nucleic acids: a structure for
> >
> >> > deoxyribose nucleic acid'
> >
> >> > title-short: Molecular structure of nucleic acids
> >
> >> > container-title: Nature
> >
> >> > volume: 171
> >
> >> > issue: 4356
> >
> >> > page: 737-738
> >
> >> > DOI: 10.1038/171737a0
> >
> >> > URL: https://www.nature.com/articles/171737a0
> >
> >> > language: en-GB
> >
> >> > note: Note this!
> >
> >> > nocite: |
> >
> >> > @*
> >
> >> > ...
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > the docx result is:
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > [image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 140026.png] This also occurs with the
> >
> >> > chicago-annotated-bibliography csl file and so does not appear to be
> >
> >> > related to the csl file itself.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > --
> >
> >> > Rik
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > --
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-06-07 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ,
pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
<denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
> So, I guess the elements before the note should have a display attribute as well, but we may also consider whether
> \newcommand{\CSLBlock}[1]{\linebreak#1\hfill\break}
> or something similar might be an option...
That seems plausible! Would you like to test this change to the
default template and submit a PR?
If it's right, we'd need similar changes in docx and HTML (which
are the only writers so far that really support block structure,
if I recall).
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-06-07 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A, pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
Yes, I can have a look.
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Juni 2021 16:04
> An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: Missing space before note in bibliography
>
> <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > So, I guess the elements before the note should have a display
> > attribute as well, but we may also consider whether
> > \newcommand{\CSLBlock}[1]{\linebreak#1\hfill\break}
> > or something similar might be an option...
>
> That seems plausible! Would you like to test this change to the default
> template and submit a PR?
>
> If it's right, we'd need similar changes in docx and HTML (which are the only
> writers so far that really support block structure, if I recall).
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From: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ @ 2021-06-07 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A, pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
Issue added.
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Juni 2021 23:53
> An: 'John MacFarlane' <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: AW: AW: Missing space before note in bibliography
>
> Yes, I can have a look.
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
> > Gesendet: Montag, 7. Juni 2021 16:04
> > An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-
> > discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: AW: Missing space before note in bibliography
> >
> > <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >
> > > So, I guess the elements before the note should have a display
> > > attribute as well, but we may also consider whether
> > > \newcommand{\CSLBlock}[1]{\linebreak#1\hfill\break}
> > > or something similar might be an option...
> >
> > That seems plausible! Would you like to test this change to the
> > default template and submit a PR?
> >
> > If it's right, we'd need similar changes in docx and HTML (which are
> > the only writers so far that really support block structure, if I recall).
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