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But I don't know if I'm inclined to do anything about the first one. We'd need some magic method of converting material after the citation into a suffix of the name. Sometimes you want this, sometimes y,ou don't. Joseph Reagle writes: > #7206 is closed, but I think it merits re-opening as there is one bug and one issue -- running 2.14.0.2. > > First, if there's another apostrophe in the sentence, the smart punctuation is backwards. > Second, I expected the apostrophe to be on the last last name, not after the parentheses. > > https://reagle.org/joseph/2016/04/min-eg/cite-apostrophe.md -> > > https://reagle.org/joseph/2016/04/min-eg/cite-apostrophe.html > > > > On 21-04-05 14:45, John MacFarlane wrote: >> I've been wanting this too. You could propose on the tracker >> a way to specify just the locator. I don't know about the syntax >> though. Maybe double dash would work well, as you suggest. >> Does anyone have any reactions to this one way or the other? >> >> >> Joseph Reagle writes: >> >>> I haven't used the author/year format in a while and I wonder what's the current best practice for the typical APA pattern: >>> >>> ``` >>> According to Jones (1998), "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). >>> ``` >>> >>> Do we still have to manually format the page number? >>> >>> ``` >>> According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). >>> ``` >>> >>> Instead of suppressing author and year (with a double hyphen, for example): >>> >>> ``` >>> According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" [--@Jones1998, p. 199]. >>> ``` > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/71436f8b-fd87-b055-01f2-db80a62746bb%40reagle.org.