From: John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
To: Denis Maier
<denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: WIP: better citation processing
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:58:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2v9gkhvya.fsf@MacBook-Pro.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1adfb0c1-d745-a6dc-bf14-f790e3f1280f-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Yes, we could definitely consider adding support for
these things at a later date.
By-section citations would actually be pretty easy.
Multiple bibliographies is also simple IF it's just
a matter of separating items out of a formatted bibliography
into several separate ones. But if it's going to affect
things like disambiguation then it would be trickier.
The cito thing seems more special-case, but maybe that too.
Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> Am 11.09.2020 um 18:46 schrieb Albert Krewinkel:
>>
>> John MacFarlane writes:
>>
>>> It would be good to get clear on this. We could expose
>>> a --citeproc and require it to be used to process citations.
>>> That would also give control of order; it could be treated as
>>> a built-in filter. So maybe it's the thing to do -- but I did
>>> like the idea of doing it automatically.
>>
>> I agree, that's much nicer. Would an additional `--no-citeproc`
>> option make sense? It could suppress the automatic run.
>>
>>> It should be pretty straightforward to expose this to Lua
>>> filters. (But again, I'd be curious to hear why calling
>>> manually from Lua filters would be needed.) At heart it's just a
>>> Pandoc -> m Pandoc transformation in PandocMonad.
>>
>> Indeed, that should be really easy then. :)
>>
>> Lua filters which call out to pandoc-citeproc, or which rely on a
>> special filter order:
>>
>> - cito: allows to add information about the semantic relation of the
>> cited work to the current document. Plugs into the citation syntax and
>> requires citation IDs to be rewritten before pandoc-citeproc is
>> called.
>>
>> - section-refs: adds "References" for all first level sections; creates
>> temporary documents from sections, then calls `pandoc-citeproc` on
>> the temporary docs.
>>
>> - multiple-bibliographies: allows to partition references into
>> categories; implementation is similar to section-refs.
>
> Adding a `-citeproc` option would be a good option.
> But that aside, I think that these particular filters (or replacements
> thereof) could/should be included in the new citeproc library.
>
>>
>> --
>> Albert Krewinkel
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>>
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2020-08-16 22:59 John MacFarlane
2020-08-17 14:55 ` OT: " Anton Shepelev
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2020-08-17 14:31 ` James
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2020-08-17 23:17 ` Priv.-Doz. Dr. Maria Shinoto
2020-08-18 9:58 ` Denis Maier
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2020-08-18 15:39 ` jcr
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2020-08-18 16:59 ` Denis Maier
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2020-08-18 18:13 ` FI Apps
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2020-08-18 21:14 ` Denis Maier
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2020-08-19 8:37 ` FI Apps
2020-08-19 12:47 ` James P. Ascher
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2020-08-19 13:12 ` Denis Maier
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2020-08-19 13:37 ` James P. Ascher
2020-08-21 19:41 ` John MacFarlane
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2020-08-22 9:33 ` Denis Maier
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2020-09-08 18:15 ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-09 7:51 ` Gabriel Nützi
2020-09-09 9:10 ` FI Apps
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2020-09-11 15:12 ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-11 16:02 ` Albert Krewinkel
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2020-09-11 16:24 ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-11 16:46 ` Albert Krewinkel
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2020-09-11 18:51 ` proposed --citeproc option John MacFarlane
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2020-09-12 15:56 ` BPJ
2020-09-11 20:31 ` WIP: better citation processing Denis Maier
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2020-09-11 20:58 ` John MacFarlane [this message]
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2020-09-11 21:14 ` Denis Maier
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2020-09-11 21:21 ` Denis Maier
2020-09-17 17:18 ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-17 17:30 ` Denis Maier
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2020-09-17 19:20 ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12 6:45 ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12 6:51 ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12 6:26 ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2020-08-20 12:29 ` Joseph Reagle
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2020-08-21 19:06 ` John MacFarlane
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2020-08-21 19:12 ` John MacFarlane
2020-08-21 21:21 ` Joseph Reagle
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2020-08-21 23:03 ` John MacFarlane
2021-06-16 18:14 ` Joseph
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2021-06-16 19:33 ` John MacFarlane
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2021-06-17 14:01 ` Joseph Reagle
2020-09-24 16:10 ` WIP: better citation processing - nightlies now available for testing! John MacFarlane
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