Numerical citations -- prefix problems

Numerical citations -- prefix problems

[JL]

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I'm trying to get prefixes to work for numerical citations (I'm using a 
custom CSL but have the same problem when using a standard one), but they 
get ignored:

[cf. @cite1, p. 12] ---> [1, p. 12]
[see @cite2] ---> [2]

I can work around it like this

[cf. [@cite1], p. 12] --> [cf. [1], p. 12]

but I would like a result similar to what would author-date citations would 
look like

[cf. 1, p. 12]

Could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks!

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Re: Numerical citations -- prefix problems

[Denis Maier]

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Maybe a bug? I've tested with nature.csl

citeproc-js in Zotero/Word gave me correct results, pandoc with 
pandoc-citeproc didn't.

Am 02.09.2020 um 17:44 schrieb JL:
> I'm trying to get prefixes to work for numerical citations (I'm using 
> a custom CSL but have the same problem when using a standard one), but 
> they get ignored:
>
> [cf. @cite1, p. 12] ---> [1, p. 12]
> [see @cite2] ---> [2]
>
> I can work around it like this
>
> [cf. [@cite1], p. 12] --> [cf. [1], p. 12]
>
> but I would like a result similar to what would author-date citations 
> would look like
>
> [cf. 1, p. 12]
>
> Could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks!
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Re: Numerical citations -- prefix problems

[John MacFarlane]

This is something to fix then.  A bug report on pandoc-citeproc
could help me keep track.

Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Maybe a bug? I've tested with nature.csl
>
> citeproc-js in Zotero/Word gave me correct results, pandoc with 
> pandoc-citeproc didn't.
>
> Am 02.09.2020 um 17:44 schrieb JL:
>> I'm trying to get prefixes to work for numerical citations (I'm using 
>> a custom CSL but have the same problem when using a standard one), but 
>> they get ignored:
>>
>> [cf. @cite1, p. 12] ---> [1, p. 12]
>> [see @cite2] ---> [2]
>>
>> I can work around it like this
>>
>> [cf. [@cite1], p. 12] --> [cf. [1], p. 12]
>>
>> but I would like a result similar to what would author-date citations 
>> would look like
>>
>> [cf. 1, p. 12]
>>
>> Could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks!
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Re: Numerical citations -- prefix problems

[Denis Maier]

Ok.
Will you keep on fixing these kind of things in the light of a new 
haskell citeproc being just around the corner?

Am 03.09.2020 um 00:39 schrieb John MacFarlane:
> This is something to fix then.  A bug report on pandoc-citeproc
> could help me keep track.
>
> Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org> writes:
>
>> Maybe a bug? I've tested with nature.csl
>>
>> citeproc-js in Zotero/Word gave me correct results, pandoc with
>> pandoc-citeproc didn't.
>>
>> Am 02.09.2020 um 17:44 schrieb JL:
>>> I'm trying to get prefixes to work for numerical citations (I'm using
>>> a custom CSL but have the same problem when using a standard one), but
>>> they get ignored:
>>>
>>> [cf. @cite1, p. 12] ---> [1, p. 12]
>>> [see @cite2] ---> [2]
>>>
>>> I can work around it like this
>>>
>>> [cf. [@cite1], p. 12] --> [cf. [1], p. 12]
>>>
>>> but I would like a result similar to what would author-date citations
>>> would look like
>>>
>>> [cf. 1, p. 12]
>>>
>>> Could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks!
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Re: Numerical citations -- prefix problems

[John MacFarlane]

> Will you keep on fixing these kind of things in the light of a new 
> haskell citeproc being just around the corner?

Well, maybe not.

Prefixes and suffixes do work with numerical styles in
the currently experimental new-pandoc-citeproc.

However, I'm not completely sure how they're supposed to work.

Trying with

[cf. @cite1, p. 12, and others]

In nature.csl, you get a superscripted

(cf. 1, and others)

with no locator (is that because of something in the style)?

In ieee.csl, you get

cf.  [1, p. 12], and others

with the prefix and suffix outside of the brackets.

In plos.csl you get

[cf. 1, and others]

again no locator.

Denis, are these correct interpretations of the styles, or bugs?


Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Ok.
>

>
> Am 03.09.2020 um 00:39 schrieb John MacFarlane:
>> This is something to fix then.  A bug report on pandoc-citeproc
>> could help me keep track.
>>
>> Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>>> Maybe a bug? I've tested with nature.csl
>>>
>>> citeproc-js in Zotero/Word gave me correct results, pandoc with
>>> pandoc-citeproc didn't.
>>>
>>> Am 02.09.2020 um 17:44 schrieb JL:
>>>> I'm trying to get prefixes to work for numerical citations (I'm using
>>>> a custom CSL but have the same problem when using a standard one), but
>>>> they get ignored:
>>>>
>>>> [cf. @cite1, p. 12] ---> [1, p. 12]
>>>> [see @cite2] ---> [2]
>>>>
>>>> I can work around it like this
>>>>
>>>> [cf. [@cite1], p. 12] --> [cf. [1], p. 12]
>>>>
>>>> but I would like a result similar to what would author-date citations
>>>> would look like
>>>>
>>>> [cf. 1, p. 12]
>>>>
>>>> Could somebody point me in the right direction? Thanks!
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