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From: John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
To: Paul Gesting <folofjc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	pandoc-discuss
	<pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: ignorenonframetext in default.latex
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 11:49:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yh480kiluf5wvb.fsf@johnmacfarlane.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5bfb6c9d-5237-4849-8dd8-26b6a81f7af9n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>


It didn't add a frame for me when I tried it...
Are you using an up-to-date pandoc?

Paul Gesting <folofjc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply! That was one of the first things I tried. The 
> ::: notes block does the exact same thing as simply \note{...}. Both of 
> them add a frame. Sorry, I wasn't very clear in my tex.se question, but the 
> reason I put both the ::: notes block and the \note{...} command was to 
> show that both give the exact same result in the .text file that I showed.
>
> Thanks!
> paul
>
> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 6:55:43 PM UTC+1 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> What happens if you do this (with current pandoc)?
>>
>> % pandoc -t beamer -s -o my.pdf --slide-level=2
>> # Hi
>>
>> ::: notes
>> note
>> :::
>>
>> ## Slide
>>
>> ok
>> ^D
>>
>> When I tried this, I did not get an extra page after the section
>> heading "Hi". (But I'm not sure how to view the notes with
>> beamer.)
>>
>> Actually, the manual says that "notes" divs are only supported
>> for powerpoint and reveal.js. This seems wrong, because beamer
>> does now seem to support them. So perhaps the manual needs
>> updating? But how do you actually use the speaker notes with
>> beamer?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Gesting <fol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > I actually have a use case where I would like text under a section title 
>> to 
>> > be outside of a frame. See the question I posted here 
>> > <
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/630390/add-a-beamer-note-to-a-section-slide-using-pandoc-and-markdown
>> >
>> > .
>> >
>> > Basically, if I want to add a note to a section title, I do not want a 
>> > blank frame to be added for the note. I want the note on the section 
>> frame. 
>> > Is this still possible after the change that is cited above?
>> >
>> > On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 11:04:16 PM UTC+2 thomas....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here is something that would be different after the change:
>> >>
>> >> A md like this:
>> >>
>> >> ```
>> >> # Foo
>> >>
>> >> Foo
>> >>
>> >> ## Bar
>> >>
>> >> Bar
>> >> ```
>> >>
>> >> The command: `$ pandoc --slide-level=2 -t beamer -o test.tex test.md` 
>> >> produces LaTeX where there is text ('Foo') outside of a frame. If 
>> >> ignorefametext is removed from the template, doing $ pandoc 
>> --slide-level=2 
>> >> -t beamer -o test.pdf test.md` would give different results, i.e., 
>> 'Foo' 
>> >> would now be printed on a new slide after the section, rather than not 
>> >> appearing at all.
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 22:26:02 UTC+2 Thomas Hodgson wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Is there a case where it would be expected that something would be 
>> >>> written outside a frame, and that it should be ignored?
>> >>>
>> >>> I have checked the modified template with sections, and with 
>> subsections, 
>> >>> and without either.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 21:23:19 UTC+2 John MacFarlane wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We used to ignore stuff outside of frames. 
>> >>>> However, this changed with 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 
>> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/commit/f431f67b2f2f5071345fa5800658375afaf44c1b 
>> >>>> (somewhat controversially) 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It may be that after this commit, removing ignorenonframetext 
>> >>>> would be okay. Maybe someone can test that out (with a lot of 
>> >>>> different cases, please). 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thomas Hodgson <thomas....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes: 
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > The default.latex template uses the 'ignorenonframetext' for 
>> Beamer. 
>> >>>> Is 
>> >>>> > there a good reason for this? If that was removed from the 
>> template, 
>> >>>> there 
>> >>>> > would be no need to handle making titles differently for beamer and 
>> >>>> other 
>> >>>> > formats, i.e., it could be done with `\maketitle` in both cases. I 
>> >>>> think 
>> >>>> > that that's better when using themes that treat a title slide 
>> >>>> differently 
>> >>>> > from ordinary slides (such as Metropolis). 
>> >>>> > 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-13 18:36 Thomas Hodgson
     [not found] ` <69361063-4c69-4403-85c7-31d943d138fdn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 19:23   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]     ` <m2mu1th46i.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 20:26       ` Thomas Hodgson
     [not found]         ` <2a37b9d4-8b50-4764-950b-d97f2701f8f4n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 21:04           ` Thomas Hodgson
     [not found]             ` <8d3b5815-bc30-4113-9683-11c166866e32n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 21:36               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m28sddgy0t.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-13 22:42                   ` Thomas Hodgson
2022-01-19 16:27               ` Paul Gesting
     [not found]                 ` <81339d69-ff5e-4f9e-8ee5-1d7ba12a9d7dn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-19 17:55                   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                     ` <m2v8yftxtc.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-19 19:26                       ` Paul Gesting
     [not found]                         ` <5bfb6c9d-5237-4849-8dd8-26b6a81f7af9n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-19 19:49                           ` John MacFarlane [this message]
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2022-01-19 19:53                               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                 ` <yh480kfspj5wov.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-20  5:40                                   ` Paul Gesting
     [not found]                                     ` <34cc5349-a24d-494f-8abe-cd7cbf2994f0n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-21  5:40                                       ` Paul Gesting
     [not found]                                         ` <4a30c413-8ce3-4269-afb9-848f328b8a2dn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-07 14:14                                           ` Stephan Boltzmann
2022-01-19 19:41                       ` Paul Gesting

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