From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from apollo.le.ac.uk ([143.210.16.125]) by hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <75662>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:37:20 -0500 Received: from happy.star.le.ac.uk ([143.210.36.58]) by apollo.le.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 16biyE-0004R9-00 for rc@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:04:14 +0000 Received: (qmail 9223 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2002 14:04:36 -0000 Received: from fozzie.star.le.ac.uk (143.210.36.216) by happy.star.le.ac.uk with QMQP; 15 Feb 2002 14:04:36 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:04:36 -0500 Message-ID: <20020215140436.28162.qmail@happy.star.le.ac.uk> From: Tim Goodwin To: rc@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu In-reply-to: <200202150411.g1F4BTn06392@rakitzis.com> (byron@rakitzis.com) Subject: Re: non login "rc" needs customized environment References: <200202150411.g1F4BTn06392@rakitzis.com> My thoughts on this subject. 1. First and foremost, my focus at the moment is on getting rc-1.7 out the door. Whatever we conclude on this issue, I'm not making any changes before then. (So far, nobody's reported any problems with rc-1.6c6; if you've found any, please tell me ASAP!) 2. I agree that there is a real problem here (although we've all managed to muddle along somehow till now). 3. Any solution must be simple. If you want zsh, you know where to find it :-). (The other heavyweight shells, such as bash and tcsh, have also gone down the "twisty little maze of startup files" route; rc will not. Promise.) 4. I'm not at all keen to introduce any more compile-time options. This implies that we must seek a solution which is acceptable to everybody (or almost everybody). 5. I'm keeping a note of the various ideas that have been suggested. When the discussion dries up (or descends into flamefest), I'll post a summary. Tim.