From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ben.britain.eu.net ([192.91.199.254]) by hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <2701>; Wed, 22 Sep 1993 13:18:57 -0400 Received: from a.gec-epl.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via PSS with NIFTP (PP) id ; Wed, 22 Sep 1993 18:18:17 +0100 Received: by zombie.gec-epl.co.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01615; Wed, 22 Sep 93 18:18:08 BST Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 13:18:08 -0400 From: steve@gec-epl.co.uk (Steve_Kilbane) Message-Id: <9309221718.AA01615@zombie.gec-epl.co.uk> To: arnold Subject: Re: Thoughts on a builtin read Cc: rc@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII > I think if people put Plan 9 into production for day to day use, > including grungy things like writing papers, they might end up with > more productive environments for themselves. (This would be true of other > os's as well, eg Clouds here at GT.) maybe. depends on whether they had access to other machines, too. at minster.york.ac.uk, the students use a plan 9-like os running on 386 boxes, but last i saw, i hadn't seen any students doing anything more than running a load of remote shells onto the file server (which happens to run AIX). me, i'd play with the local os, and have fun, but generally it doesn't look that different from unix anyway (the shared environment and lack of links are the main places where you see the join) - it's only when you get into the programming that you see where the kludges have been removed. > Maybe I'm wrong. But the attitude of "I just want to get my job done, I don't > care about elegance/non-elegance of my environment" just leads us to > DOS, Novell, and Windows NT. Yuck. kinda, but inertia was the main thing for dos, and pretty icons is the big mover for nt, i reckon. it's a sad world. still, this is off the track of rc. 9fans might be better, but i doubt it. steve