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* [ruby-core:121992] [Ruby Bug#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
@ 2025-05-10 19:04 pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core
  2025-05-11 10:27 ` [ruby-core:122007] [Ruby Misc#21325] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
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From: pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core @ 2025-05-10 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core; +Cc: pynix (Pynix wang)

Issue #21325 has been reported by pynix (Pynix wang).

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Bug #21325: make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21325

* Author: pynix (Pynix wang)
* Status: Open
* Backport: 3.2: UNKNOWN, 3.3: UNKNOWN, 3.4: UNKNOWN
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after 35, I lose all interests about programming.

no linux, no vim, no iterm2, and no much much.

when I want to format a ruby time to string.

I will try `Time.now.format("yy-MM-dd")`, 

but I get `private method 'format' called for an instance of Time`

ohh, I google `ruby time format`,

then I get `strftime`,

I know this is from c standard library.

answer me, looking my eyes. why? baby why?

why I have to use c style method with ruby in 2025. 


format is the first choose when we not familiar with `Time` class,


so, `format` is private, so we can rename it to `_format`,

and make `format` a copy of `strftime` and deprecate the old one,






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* [ruby-core:122007] [Ruby Misc#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
  2025-05-10 19:04 [ruby-core:121992] [Ruby Bug#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core
@ 2025-05-11 10:27 ` nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
  2025-05-11 16:32 ` [ruby-core:122020] " pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core @ 2025-05-11 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core; +Cc: nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)

Issue #21325 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada).


`format` is an alias of `#sprinf` inherited from `Kernel`.
We can't rename it.

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Misc #21325: make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21325#change-113125

* Author: pynix (Pynix wang)
* Status: Open
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after 35, I lose all interests about programming.

no linux, no vim, no iterm2, and no much much.

when I want to format a ruby time to string.

I will try `Time.now.format("yy-MM-dd")`, 

but I get `private method 'format' called for an instance of Time`

ohh, I google `ruby time format`,

then I get `strftime`,

I know this is from c standard library.

answer me, looking my eyes. why? baby why?

why I have to use c style method with ruby in 2025. 


format is the first choose when we not familiar with `Time` class,


so, `format` is private, so we can rename it to `_format`,

and make `format` a copy of `strftime` and deprecate the old one,






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* [ruby-core:122020] [Ruby Misc#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
  2025-05-10 19:04 [ruby-core:121992] [Ruby Bug#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core
  2025-05-11 10:27 ` [ruby-core:122007] [Ruby Misc#21325] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
@ 2025-05-11 16:32 ` pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core
  2025-05-18  4:06 ` [ruby-core:122180] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
  2025-06-15  8:42 ` [ruby-core:122539] " nofxxx (M P) via ruby-core
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core @ 2025-05-11 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core; +Cc: pynix (Pynix wang)

Issue #21325 has been updated by pynix (Pynix wang).




nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) wrote in #note-2:
> `format` is an alias of `#sprinf` inherited from `Kernel`.
> We can't rename it.


if format is not ok,

to_s will be good, like Integer, `255.to_s(16)`

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Misc #21325: make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21325#change-113138

* Author: pynix (Pynix wang)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
after 35, I lose all interests about programming.

no linux, no vim, no iterm2, and no much much.

when I want to format a ruby time to string.

I will try `Time.now.format("yy-MM-dd")`, 

but I get `private method 'format' called for an instance of Time`

ohh, I google `ruby time format`,

then I get `strftime`,

I know this is from c standard library.

answer me, looking my eyes. why? baby why?

why I have to use c style method with ruby in 2025. 


format is the first choose when we not familiar with `Time` class,


so, `format` is private, so we can rename it to `_format`,

and make `format` a copy of `strftime` and deprecate the old one,






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* [ruby-core:122180] [Ruby Misc#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
  2025-05-10 19:04 [ruby-core:121992] [Ruby Bug#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core
  2025-05-11 10:27 ` [ruby-core:122007] [Ruby Misc#21325] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
  2025-05-11 16:32 ` [ruby-core:122020] " pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core
@ 2025-05-18  4:06 ` nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
  2025-06-15  8:42 ` [ruby-core:122539] " nofxxx (M P) via ruby-core
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core @ 2025-05-18  4:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core; +Cc: nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)

Issue #21325 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada).


pynix (Pynix wang) wrote in #note-3:
> nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) wrote in #note-2:
> > `format` is an alias of `#sprinf` inherited from `Kernel`.
> > We can't rename it.
> 
> 
> if format is not ok,

I don't say that overriding `format` is not ok.
Just renaming `Kernel#format` is not acceptable.

> to_s will be good, like Integer, `255.to_s(16)`

Overriding `to_s` can be a candidate as well.

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Misc #21325: make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21325#change-113327

* Author: pynix (Pynix wang)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
after 35, I lose all interests about programming.

no linux, no vim, no iterm2, and no much much.

when I want to format a ruby time to string.

I will try `Time.now.format("yy-MM-dd")`, 

but I get `private method 'format' called for an instance of Time`

ohh, I google `ruby time format`,

then I get `strftime`,

I know this is from c standard library.

answer me, looking my eyes. why? baby why?

why I have to use c style method with ruby in 2025. 


format is the first choose when we not familiar with `Time` class,


so, `format` is private, so we can rename it to `_format`,

and make `format` a copy of `strftime` and deprecate the old one,






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* [ruby-core:122539] [Ruby Misc#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
  2025-05-10 19:04 [ruby-core:121992] [Ruby Bug#21325] make ruby more middle-aged man friendly pynix (Pynix wang) via ruby-core
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2025-05-18  4:06 ` [ruby-core:122180] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
@ 2025-06-15  8:42 ` nofxxx (M P) via ruby-core
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: nofxxx (M P) via ruby-core @ 2025-06-15  8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core; +Cc: nofxxx (M P)

Issue #21325 has been updated by nofxxx (M P).


100% with you, fuck semantics:

LEAST SURPRISE

PROGRAMMERS's BEST FRIEND

thats ruby: the computer WORKS FOR ME, I don't and never will care about ANSI or ISO or EU

format is a fucking FORMAT the way I want (stupid computer), I'm not coding C, if I want I will f code C, but Im coding RUBY



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Misc #21325: make ruby more middle-aged man friendly
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21325#change-113765

* Author: pynix (Pynix wang)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
after 35, I lose all interests about programming.

no linux, no vim, no iterm2, and no much much.

when I want to format a ruby time to string.

I will try `Time.now.format("yy-MM-dd")`, 

but I get `private method 'format' called for an instance of Time`

ohh, I google `ruby time format`,

then I get `strftime`,

I know this is from c standard library.

answer me, looking my eyes. why? baby why?

why I have to use c style method with ruby in 2025. 


format is the first choose when we not familiar with `Time` class,


so, `format` is private, so we can rename it to `_format`,

and make `format` a copy of `strftime` and deprecate the old one,






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