* [ruby-core:120232] [Ruby master Misc#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
@ 2024-12-13 17:14 andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core
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From: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core @ 2024-12-13 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
Issue #20951 has been reported by andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin).
----------------------------------------
Misc #20951: Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20951
* Author: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
I am looking into the timezone object feature (that is supported by various Time class methods) now and I am confused by the current implementation. Specifically, how a time-like object **that is not inherited from the Time class** is handled. A time-like object is returned for instance from the timezone object's `#utc_to_local` method.
The documentation states that:
> A Time-like object is a container object capable of interfacing with timezone libraries for timezone conversion.
Also
> The zone value may be an object responding to certain timezone methods, an instance of Timezone and TZInfo for example.
And indeed the `TZInfo::Timezone` class works as expected.
But when I try to use for time-like objects a brand new class not inherited from Time - it works incorrectly. Let's consider an example with `TZInfo::Timezone`:
```ruby
require 'tzinfo'
zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev") # UTC+2
time = Time.now.utc
puts time.to_i # 1734107333
puts Time.now(in: zone) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333
```
And now an example with a brand new class.
I make an assumption, that as far as `zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i` doesn't change Unix timestamp (it equals `time.to_i`, that's 1734107333), so in a new class also `#utc_to_local` should return not modified value too.
```ruby
TimeObj = Struct.new(:year, :mon, :mday, :hour, :min, :sec, :isdst, :to_i)
zone_obj = Object.new
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i) # <=== adjust hours (`hours + 2`) to match "Europe/Kiev" timezone (that's UTC+2)
end
```
Unfortunately it produces incorrect result:
```ruby
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0000 <====== wrong UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734107333>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333 <===== the same Unix timestamp
```
So now result time object has wrong utc offset - `+0000` instead of `+0200`.
Okey, so probably Unix timestamp should be adjusted as well. Let's check:
```ruby
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i + 2 * 60 * 60) # <===== adjust #to_i as well so it returns timestamp + 2 hours
end
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200 <======= correct UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734114533>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734114533 <====== different Unix timestamp
```
Now we have correct UTC offset `+0200` despite `zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i` returns not original offset but an adjusted one.
I assume the difference is caused by a special treatment of time-like object inherited from the Time class. So its `utc_offset` property is used only. But for all the other classes the `#to_i` is used instead.
```ruby
zone.utc_to_local(time).class.ancestors
# => [TZInfo::TimeWithOffset, TZInfo::WithOffset, Time, Comparable, Object, PP::ObjectMixin, Kernel, BasicObject]
```
This difference is confusing so I think it makes sense either to document it (I mean to document that `#to_i` should return adjusted value for non-related to Time classes) in case it's intentional or to change behaviour for non-related to Time classes and rely not on `#to_i` to calculate UTC offset but on difference in `sec`/`min`/`hours` values otherwise.
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* [ruby-core:120239] [Ruby master Misc#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
2024-12-13 17:14 [ruby-core:120232] [Ruby master Misc#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core
@ 2024-12-14 9:42 ` nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
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From: nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core @ 2024-12-14 9:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)
Issue #20951 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada).
Status changed from Open to Feedback
andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) wrote:
> I am looking into the timezone object feature (that is supported by various Time class methods) now and I am confused by the current implementation. Specifically, how a time-like object **that is not inherited from the Time class** is handled. A time-like object is returned for instance from the timezone object's `#utc_to_local` method.
>
> The documentation states that:
>
> > A Time-like object is a container object capable of interfacing with timezone libraries for timezone conversion.
>
> Also
>
> > The zone value may be an object responding to certain timezone methods, an instance of Timezone and TZInfo for example.
>
> And indeed the `TZInfo::Timezone` class works as expected.
>
> But when I try to use for time-like objects a brand new class not inherited from Time - it works incorrectly. Let's consider an example with `TZInfo::Timezone`:
>
> ```ruby
> require 'tzinfo'
>
> zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev") # UTC+2
> time = Time.now.utc
>
> puts time.to_i # 1734107333
>
> puts Time.now(in: zone) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
> puts zone.utc_to_local(time) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
> puts zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333
> ```
Really?
`#to_i` is different on my machine.
```ruby
require 'tzinfo'
p TZInfo::VERSION #=> "2.0.6"
zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev")
t = 1734107333
time = Time.at(t, in: zone)
p zone.utc_to_local(time).then{|u|[u.to_i, u.to_i==t, t]} #=> [1734114533, false, 1734107333]
```
> This difference is confusing so I think it makes sense either to document it (I mean to document that `#to_i` should return adjusted value for non-related to Time classes) in case it's intentional or to change behaviour for non-related to Time classes and rely not on `#to_i` to calculate UTC offset but on difference in `sec`/`min`/`hours` values otherwise.
I'll update the documentation to note that `#to_i` is used to represent the UTC offset.
----------------------------------------
Misc #20951: Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20951#change-111007
* Author: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
* Status: Feedback
----------------------------------------
I am looking into the timezone object feature (that is supported by various Time class methods) now and I am confused by the current implementation. Specifically, how a time-like object **that is not inherited from the Time class** is handled. A time-like object is returned for instance from the timezone object's `#utc_to_local` method.
The documentation states that:
> A Time-like object is a container object capable of interfacing with timezone libraries for timezone conversion.
Also
> The zone value may be an object responding to certain timezone methods, an instance of Timezone and TZInfo for example.
And indeed the `TZInfo::Timezone` class works as expected.
But when I try to use for time-like objects a brand new class not inherited from Time - it works incorrectly. Let's consider an example with `TZInfo::Timezone`:
```ruby
require 'tzinfo'
zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev") # UTC+2
time = Time.now.utc
puts time.to_i # 1734107333
puts Time.now(in: zone) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333
```
And now an example with a brand new class.
I make an assumption, that as far as `zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i` doesn't change Unix timestamp (it equals `time.to_i`, that's 1734107333), so in a new class also `#utc_to_local` should return not modified value too.
```ruby
TimeObj = Struct.new(:year, :mon, :mday, :hour, :min, :sec, :isdst, :to_i)
zone_obj = Object.new
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i) # <=== adjust hours (`hours + 2`) to match "Europe/Kiev" timezone (that's UTC+2)
end
```
Unfortunately it produces incorrect result:
```ruby
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0000 <====== wrong UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734107333>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333 <===== the same Unix timestamp
```
So now result time object has wrong utc offset - `+0000` instead of `+0200`.
Okey, so probably Unix timestamp should be adjusted as well. Let's check:
```ruby
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i + 2 * 60 * 60) # <===== adjust #to_i as well so it returns timestamp + 2 hours
end
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200 <======= correct UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734114533>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734114533 <====== different Unix timestamp
```
Now we have correct UTC offset `+0200` despite `zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i` returns not original offset but an adjusted one.
I assume the difference is caused by a special treatment of time-like object inherited from the Time class. So its `utc_offset` property is used only. But for all the other classes the `#to_i` is used instead.
```ruby
zone.utc_to_local(time).class.ancestors
# => [TZInfo::TimeWithOffset, TZInfo::WithOffset, Time, Comparable, Object, PP::ObjectMixin, Kernel, BasicObject]
```
This difference is confusing so I think it makes sense either to document it (I mean to document that `#to_i` should return adjusted value for non-related to Time classes) in case it's intentional or to change behaviour for non-related to Time classes and rely not on `#to_i` to calculate UTC offset but on difference in `sec`/`min`/`hours` values otherwise.
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* [ruby-core:120247] [Ruby master Bug#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
2024-12-13 17:14 [ruby-core:120232] [Ruby master Misc#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core
2024-12-14 9:42 ` [ruby-core:120239] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
@ 2024-12-15 8:02 ` nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
2024-12-15 13:04 ` [ruby-core:120249] " andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core
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From: nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core @ 2024-12-15 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)
Issue #20951 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada).
Tracker changed from Misc to Bug
Backport set to 3.1: REQUIRED, 3.2: REQUIRED, 3.3: REQUIRED
Moved to Bug to back port the documentation update.
----------------------------------------
Bug #20951: Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20951#change-111016
* Author: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
* Status: Feedback
* Backport: 3.1: REQUIRED, 3.2: REQUIRED, 3.3: REQUIRED
----------------------------------------
I am looking into the timezone object feature (that is supported by various Time class methods) now and I am confused by the current implementation. Specifically, how a time-like object **that is not inherited from the Time class** is handled. A time-like object is returned for instance from the timezone object's `#utc_to_local` method.
The documentation states that:
> A Time-like object is a container object capable of interfacing with timezone libraries for timezone conversion.
Also
> The zone value may be an object responding to certain timezone methods, an instance of Timezone and TZInfo for example.
And indeed the `TZInfo::Timezone` class works as expected.
But when I try to use for time-like objects a brand new class not inherited from Time - it works incorrectly. Let's consider an example with `TZInfo::Timezone`:
```ruby
require 'tzinfo'
zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev") # UTC+2
time = Time.now.utc
puts time.to_i # 1734107333
puts Time.now(in: zone) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333
```
And now an example with a brand new class.
I make an assumption, that as far as `zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i` doesn't change Unix timestamp (it equals `time.to_i`, that's 1734107333), so in a new class also `#utc_to_local` should return not modified value too.
```ruby
TimeObj = Struct.new(:year, :mon, :mday, :hour, :min, :sec, :isdst, :to_i)
zone_obj = Object.new
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i) # <=== adjust hours (`hours + 2`) to match "Europe/Kiev" timezone (that's UTC+2)
end
```
Unfortunately it produces incorrect result:
```ruby
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0000 <====== wrong UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734107333>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333 <===== the same Unix timestamp
```
So now result time object has wrong utc offset - `+0000` instead of `+0200`.
Okey, so probably Unix timestamp should be adjusted as well. Let's check:
```ruby
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i + 2 * 60 * 60) # <===== adjust #to_i as well so it returns timestamp + 2 hours
end
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200 <======= correct UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734114533>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734114533 <====== different Unix timestamp
```
Now we have correct UTC offset `+0200` despite `zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i` returns not original offset but an adjusted one.
I assume the difference is caused by a special treatment of time-like object inherited from the Time class. So its `utc_offset` property is used only. But for all the other classes the `#to_i` is used instead.
```ruby
zone.utc_to_local(time).class.ancestors
# => [TZInfo::TimeWithOffset, TZInfo::WithOffset, Time, Comparable, Object, PP::ObjectMixin, Kernel, BasicObject]
```
This difference is confusing so I think it makes sense either to document it (I mean to document that `#to_i` should return adjusted value for non-related to Time classes) in case it's intentional or to change behaviour for non-related to Time classes and rely not on `#to_i` to calculate UTC offset but on difference in `sec`/`min`/`hours` values otherwise.
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* [ruby-core:120249] [Ruby master Bug#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
2024-12-13 17:14 [ruby-core:120232] [Ruby master Misc#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core
2024-12-14 9:42 ` [ruby-core:120239] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
2024-12-15 8:02 ` [ruby-core:120247] [Ruby master Bug#20951] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core
@ 2024-12-15 13:04 ` andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core
2025-03-08 7:53 ` [ruby-core:121264] " nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga) via ruby-core
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From: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core @ 2024-12-15 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
Issue #20951 has been updated by andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin).
Thank you!
I've spotted the difference in the examples above. In my example the `utc_to_local`'s argument is converted to UTC (`time = Time.now.utc`) and in your example it's in the `"Europe/Kiev"` timezone.
I made assumption that the `#utc_to_local` method accepts a time-like object in UTC.
So it seems there is gap in the documentation because logic of `#utc_to_local` and probably `#local_to_utc` methods isn't obvious and clear from reading the description.
----------------------------------------
Bug #20951: Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20951#change-111019
* Author: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
* Status: Feedback
* Backport: 3.1: REQUIRED, 3.2: REQUIRED, 3.3: REQUIRED
----------------------------------------
I am looking into the timezone object feature (that is supported by various Time class methods) now and I am confused by the current implementation. Specifically, how a time-like object **that is not inherited from the Time class** is handled. A time-like object is returned for instance from the timezone object's `#utc_to_local` method.
The documentation states that:
> A Time-like object is a container object capable of interfacing with timezone libraries for timezone conversion.
Also
> The zone value may be an object responding to certain timezone methods, an instance of Timezone and TZInfo for example.
And indeed the `TZInfo::Timezone` class works as expected.
But when I try to use for time-like objects a brand new class not inherited from Time - it works incorrectly. Let's consider an example with `TZInfo::Timezone`:
```ruby
require 'tzinfo'
zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev") # UTC+2
time = Time.now.utc
puts time.to_i # 1734107333
puts Time.now(in: zone) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333
```
And now an example with a brand new class.
I make an assumption, that as far as `zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i` doesn't change Unix timestamp (it equals `time.to_i`, that's 1734107333), so in a new class also `#utc_to_local` should return not modified value too.
```ruby
TimeObj = Struct.new(:year, :mon, :mday, :hour, :min, :sec, :isdst, :to_i)
zone_obj = Object.new
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i) # <=== adjust hours (`hours + 2`) to match "Europe/Kiev" timezone (that's UTC+2)
end
```
Unfortunately it produces incorrect result:
```ruby
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0000 <====== wrong UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734107333>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333 <===== the same Unix timestamp
```
So now result time object has wrong utc offset - `+0000` instead of `+0200`.
Okey, so probably Unix timestamp should be adjusted as well. Let's check:
```ruby
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i + 2 * 60 * 60) # <===== adjust #to_i as well so it returns timestamp + 2 hours
end
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200 <======= correct UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734114533>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734114533 <====== different Unix timestamp
```
Now we have correct UTC offset `+0200` despite `zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i` returns not original offset but an adjusted one.
I assume the difference is caused by a special treatment of time-like object inherited from the Time class. So its `utc_offset` property is used only. But for all the other classes the `#to_i` is used instead.
```ruby
zone.utc_to_local(time).class.ancestors
# => [TZInfo::TimeWithOffset, TZInfo::WithOffset, Time, Comparable, Object, PP::ObjectMixin, Kernel, BasicObject]
```
This difference is confusing so I think it makes sense either to document it (I mean to document that `#to_i` should return adjusted value for non-related to Time classes) in case it's intentional or to change behaviour for non-related to Time classes and rely not on `#to_i` to calculate UTC offset but on difference in `sec`/`min`/`hours` values otherwise.
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* [ruby-core:121264] [Ruby master Bug#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
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From: nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga) via ruby-core @ 2025-03-08 7:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga)
Issue #20951 has been updated by nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga).
Status changed from Feedback to Closed
Moved to "Closed" status to trigger backport.
----------------------------------------
Bug #20951: Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20951#change-112219
* Author: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
* Status: Closed
* Backport: 3.1: REQUIRED, 3.2: REQUIRED, 3.3: REQUIRED
----------------------------------------
I am looking into the timezone object feature (that is supported by various Time class methods) now and I am confused by the current implementation. Specifically, how a time-like object **that is not inherited from the Time class** is handled. A time-like object is returned for instance from the timezone object's `#utc_to_local` method.
The documentation states that:
> A Time-like object is a container object capable of interfacing with timezone libraries for timezone conversion.
Also
> The zone value may be an object responding to certain timezone methods, an instance of Timezone and TZInfo for example.
And indeed the `TZInfo::Timezone` class works as expected.
But when I try to use for time-like objects a brand new class not inherited from Time - it works incorrectly. Let's consider an example with `TZInfo::Timezone`:
```ruby
require 'tzinfo'
zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev") # UTC+2
time = Time.now.utc
puts time.to_i # 1734107333
puts Time.now(in: zone) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333
```
And now an example with a brand new class.
I make an assumption, that as far as `zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i` doesn't change Unix timestamp (it equals `time.to_i`, that's 1734107333), so in a new class also `#utc_to_local` should return not modified value too.
```ruby
TimeObj = Struct.new(:year, :mon, :mday, :hour, :min, :sec, :isdst, :to_i)
zone_obj = Object.new
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i) # <=== adjust hours (`hours + 2`) to match "Europe/Kiev" timezone (that's UTC+2)
end
```
Unfortunately it produces incorrect result:
```ruby
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0000 <====== wrong UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734107333>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333 <===== the same Unix timestamp
```
So now result time object has wrong utc offset - `+0000` instead of `+0200`.
Okey, so probably Unix timestamp should be adjusted as well. Let's check:
```ruby
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i + 2 * 60 * 60) # <===== adjust #to_i as well so it returns timestamp + 2 hours
end
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200 <======= correct UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734114533>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734114533 <====== different Unix timestamp
```
Now we have correct UTC offset `+0200` despite `zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i` returns not original offset but an adjusted one.
I assume the difference is caused by a special treatment of time-like object inherited from the Time class. So its `utc_offset` property is used only. But for all the other classes the `#to_i` is used instead.
```ruby
zone.utc_to_local(time).class.ancestors
# => [TZInfo::TimeWithOffset, TZInfo::WithOffset, Time, Comparable, Object, PP::ObjectMixin, Kernel, BasicObject]
```
This difference is confusing so I think it makes sense either to document it (I mean to document that `#to_i` should return adjusted value for non-related to Time classes) in case it's intentional or to change behaviour for non-related to Time classes and rely not on `#to_i` to calculate UTC offset but on difference in `sec`/`min`/`hours` values otherwise.
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* [ruby-core:121265] [Ruby master Bug#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
2024-12-13 17:14 [ruby-core:120232] [Ruby master Misc#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core
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2025-03-08 7:53 ` [ruby-core:121264] " nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga) via ruby-core
@ 2025-03-08 8:03 ` nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga) via ruby-core
2025-03-12 9:08 ` [ruby-core:121307] " hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core
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From: nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga) via ruby-core @ 2025-03-08 8:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga)
Issue #20951 has been updated by nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga).
Backport changed from 3.1: REQUIRED, 3.2: REQUIRED, 3.3: REQUIRED to 3.1: REQUIRED, 3.2: REQUIRED, 3.3: DONE
ruby_3_3 commit:56ba9041d9e338359b32ba0bfb3d816d57dc9d39 merged revision(s) commit:ae6bd3b49ba252985b92416c24102ede3c0aac9b, commit:966458199d870b88b42898d4a063b487c1ef6b00, commit:966458199d870b88b42898d4a063b487c1ef6b00.
----------------------------------------
Bug #20951: Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20951#change-112220
* Author: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
* Status: Closed
* Backport: 3.1: REQUIRED, 3.2: REQUIRED, 3.3: DONE
----------------------------------------
I am looking into the timezone object feature (that is supported by various Time class methods) now and I am confused by the current implementation. Specifically, how a time-like object **that is not inherited from the Time class** is handled. A time-like object is returned for instance from the timezone object's `#utc_to_local` method.
The documentation states that:
> A Time-like object is a container object capable of interfacing with timezone libraries for timezone conversion.
Also
> The zone value may be an object responding to certain timezone methods, an instance of Timezone and TZInfo for example.
And indeed the `TZInfo::Timezone` class works as expected.
But when I try to use for time-like objects a brand new class not inherited from Time - it works incorrectly. Let's consider an example with `TZInfo::Timezone`:
```ruby
require 'tzinfo'
zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev") # UTC+2
time = Time.now.utc
puts time.to_i # 1734107333
puts Time.now(in: zone) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333
```
And now an example with a brand new class.
I make an assumption, that as far as `zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i` doesn't change Unix timestamp (it equals `time.to_i`, that's 1734107333), so in a new class also `#utc_to_local` should return not modified value too.
```ruby
TimeObj = Struct.new(:year, :mon, :mday, :hour, :min, :sec, :isdst, :to_i)
zone_obj = Object.new
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i) # <=== adjust hours (`hours + 2`) to match "Europe/Kiev" timezone (that's UTC+2)
end
```
Unfortunately it produces incorrect result:
```ruby
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0000 <====== wrong UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734107333>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333 <===== the same Unix timestamp
```
So now result time object has wrong utc offset - `+0000` instead of `+0200`.
Okey, so probably Unix timestamp should be adjusted as well. Let's check:
```ruby
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i + 2 * 60 * 60) # <===== adjust #to_i as well so it returns timestamp + 2 hours
end
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200 <======= correct UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734114533>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734114533 <====== different Unix timestamp
```
Now we have correct UTC offset `+0200` despite `zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i` returns not original offset but an adjusted one.
I assume the difference is caused by a special treatment of time-like object inherited from the Time class. So its `utc_offset` property is used only. But for all the other classes the `#to_i` is used instead.
```ruby
zone.utc_to_local(time).class.ancestors
# => [TZInfo::TimeWithOffset, TZInfo::WithOffset, Time, Comparable, Object, PP::ObjectMixin, Kernel, BasicObject]
```
This difference is confusing so I think it makes sense either to document it (I mean to document that `#to_i` should return adjusted value for non-related to Time classes) in case it's intentional or to change behaviour for non-related to Time classes and rely not on `#to_i` to calculate UTC offset but on difference in `sec`/`min`/`hours` values otherwise.
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* [ruby-core:121307] [Ruby master Bug#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
2024-12-13 17:14 [ruby-core:120232] [Ruby master Misc#20951] Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin) via ruby-core
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2025-03-08 8:03 ` [ruby-core:121265] " nagachika (Tomoyuki Chikanaga) via ruby-core
@ 2025-03-12 9:08 ` hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core
5 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core @ 2025-03-12 9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA)
Issue #20951 has been updated by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA).
Backport changed from 3.1: REQUIRED, 3.2: REQUIRED, 3.3: DONE to 3.1: DONTNEED, 3.2: DONTNEED, 3.3: DONE, 3.4: DONTNEED
`doc/_timezones.rdoc` is introduced from Ruby 3.3 release. I removed Ruby 3.1 and 3.2 from backport targets.
----------------------------------------
Bug #20951: Confusing handling of timezone object's `#utc_to_local` results
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20951#change-112269
* Author: andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
* Status: Closed
* Backport: 3.1: DONTNEED, 3.2: DONTNEED, 3.3: DONE, 3.4: DONTNEED
----------------------------------------
I am looking into the timezone object feature (that is supported by various Time class methods) now and I am confused by the current implementation. Specifically, how a time-like object **that is not inherited from the Time class** is handled. A time-like object is returned for instance from the timezone object's `#utc_to_local` method.
The documentation states that:
> A Time-like object is a container object capable of interfacing with timezone libraries for timezone conversion.
Also
> The zone value may be an object responding to certain timezone methods, an instance of Timezone and TZInfo for example.
And indeed the `TZInfo::Timezone` class works as expected.
But when I try to use for time-like objects a brand new class not inherited from Time - it works incorrectly. Let's consider an example with `TZInfo::Timezone`:
```ruby
require 'tzinfo'
zone = TZInfo::Timezone.get("Europe/Kiev") # UTC+2
time = Time.now.utc
puts time.to_i # 1734107333
puts Time.now(in: zone) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200
puts zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333
```
And now an example with a brand new class.
I make an assumption, that as far as `zone.utc_to_local(time).to_i` doesn't change Unix timestamp (it equals `time.to_i`, that's 1734107333), so in a new class also `#utc_to_local` should return not modified value too.
```ruby
TimeObj = Struct.new(:year, :mon, :mday, :hour, :min, :sec, :isdst, :to_i)
zone_obj = Object.new
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i) # <=== adjust hours (`hours + 2`) to match "Europe/Kiev" timezone (that's UTC+2)
end
```
Unfortunately it produces incorrect result:
```ruby
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0000 <====== wrong UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734107333>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734107333 <===== the same Unix timestamp
```
So now result time object has wrong utc offset - `+0000` instead of `+0200`.
Okey, so probably Unix timestamp should be adjusted as well. Let's check:
```ruby
def zone_obj.utc_to_local(t)
TimeObj.new(t.year, t.mon, t.mday, t.hour + 2, t.min, t.sec, t.isdst, t.to_i + 2 * 60 * 60) # <===== adjust #to_i as well so it returns timestamp + 2 hours
end
puts Time.now(in: zone_obj) # 2024-12-13 18:28:53 +0200 <======= correct UTC offset
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time) # #<struct TimeObj year=2024, mon=12, mday=13, hour=18, min=28, sec=53, isdst=false, to_i=1734114533>
puts zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i # 1734114533 <====== different Unix timestamp
```
Now we have correct UTC offset `+0200` despite `zone_obj.utc_to_local(time).to_i` returns not original offset but an adjusted one.
I assume the difference is caused by a special treatment of time-like object inherited from the Time class. So its `utc_offset` property is used only. But for all the other classes the `#to_i` is used instead.
```ruby
zone.utc_to_local(time).class.ancestors
# => [TZInfo::TimeWithOffset, TZInfo::WithOffset, Time, Comparable, Object, PP::ObjectMixin, Kernel, BasicObject]
```
This difference is confusing so I think it makes sense either to document it (I mean to document that `#to_i` should return adjusted value for non-related to Time classes) in case it's intentional or to change behaviour for non-related to Time classes and rely not on `#to_i` to calculate UTC offset but on difference in `sec`/`min`/`hours` values otherwise.
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