* [ruby-core:122086] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
@ 2025-05-14 4:57 koic (Koichi ITO) via ruby-core
2025-05-14 7:03 ` [ruby-core:122089] " byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
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From: koic (Koichi ITO) via ruby-core @ 2025-05-14 4:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: koic (Koichi ITO)
Issue #21337 has been reported by koic (Koichi ITO).
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Bug #21337: Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21337
* Author: koic (Koichi ITO)
* Status: Open
* ruby -v: ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
* Backport: 3.2: UNKNOWN, 3.3: UNKNOWN, 3.4: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
The following syntax behavior differs between Ruby 3.3 (parse.y by default) and Ruby 3.4 (Prism by default).
```ruby
if true && not true; end
```
## Expected
In Ruby 3.3 and earlier, the following code results in a syntax error. The default parser is `parse.y`.
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The key point is that `not` is used on the right-hand side of a logical operator.
## Actual
When the default parser is switched to Prism, it is accepted as valid syntax with Ruby 3.4+ (Prism by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
```
Specifying parse.y causes a syntax error, as before 3.3 (parse.y by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
$ ruby --parser=parse.y -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected 'true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The behavior seen in the parse.y producing a syntax error might be probably the expected one.
Any case, it is likely that users would not expect such a discrepancy between parsers.
This issue was noticed in the context of the following RuboCop issue:
https://github.com/rubocop/rubocop/issues/14177
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* [ruby-core:122089] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
2025-05-14 4:57 [ruby-core:122086] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism koic (Koichi ITO) via ruby-core
@ 2025-05-14 7:03 ` byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
2025-05-22 3:39 ` [ruby-core:122225] " Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme) via ruby-core
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From: byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core @ 2025-05-14 7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: byroot (Jean Boussier)
Issue #21337 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier).
Assignee set to prism
----------------------------------------
Bug #21337: Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21337#change-113243
* Author: koic (Koichi ITO)
* Status: Open
* Assignee: prism
* ruby -v: ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
* Backport: 3.2: UNKNOWN, 3.3: UNKNOWN, 3.4: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
The following syntax behavior differs between Ruby 3.3 (parse.y by default) and Ruby 3.4 (Prism by default).
```ruby
if true && not true; end
```
## Expected
In Ruby 3.3 and earlier, the following code results in a syntax error. The default parser is `parse.y`.
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The key point is that `not` is used on the right-hand side of a logical operator.
## Actual
When the default parser is switched to Prism, it is accepted as valid syntax with Ruby 3.4+ (Prism by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
```
Specifying parse.y causes a syntax error, as before 3.3 (parse.y by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
$ ruby --parser=parse.y -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected 'true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The behavior seen in the parse.y producing a syntax error might be probably the expected one.
Any case, it is likely that users would not expect such a discrepancy between parsers.
This issue was noticed in the context of the following RuboCop issue:
https://github.com/rubocop/rubocop/issues/14177
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* [ruby-core:122225] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
2025-05-14 4:57 [ruby-core:122086] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism koic (Koichi ITO) via ruby-core
2025-05-14 7:03 ` [ruby-core:122089] " byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
@ 2025-05-22 3:39 ` Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme) via ruby-core
2025-06-05 8:53 ` [ruby-core:122438] " matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core
2025-06-05 10:52 ` [ruby-core:122450] " mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core
3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme) via ruby-core @ 2025-05-22 3:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme)
Issue #21337 has been updated by Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme).
I prefer the behavior of Prism here. Intuitively, `true && not true` seems like it should be valid just like `true and not true`
----------------------------------------
Bug #21337: Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21337#change-113373
* Author: koic (Koichi ITO)
* Status: Open
* Assignee: prism
* ruby -v: ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
* Backport: 3.2: UNKNOWN, 3.3: UNKNOWN, 3.4: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
The following syntax behavior differs between Ruby 3.3 (parse.y by default) and Ruby 3.4 (Prism by default).
```ruby
if true && not true; end
```
## Expected
In Ruby 3.3 and earlier, the following code results in a syntax error. The default parser is `parse.y`.
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The key point is that `not` is used on the right-hand side of a logical operator.
## Actual
When the default parser is switched to Prism, it is accepted as valid syntax with Ruby 3.4+ (Prism by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
```
Specifying parse.y causes a syntax error, as before 3.3 (parse.y by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
$ ruby --parser=parse.y -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected 'true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The behavior seen in the parse.y producing a syntax error might be probably the expected one.
Any case, it is likely that users would not expect such a discrepancy between parsers.
This issue was noticed in the context of the following RuboCop issue:
https://github.com/rubocop/rubocop/issues/14177
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* [ruby-core:122438] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
2025-05-14 4:57 [ruby-core:122086] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism koic (Koichi ITO) via ruby-core
2025-05-14 7:03 ` [ruby-core:122089] " byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
2025-05-22 3:39 ` [ruby-core:122225] " Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme) via ruby-core
@ 2025-06-05 8:53 ` matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core
2025-06-05 10:52 ` [ruby-core:122450] " mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core
3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core @ 2025-06-05 8:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Issue #21337 has been updated by matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto).
I am against this prism behavior. It introduces ambiguity for `not a && b` (might be `not (a && b)` or `(not a) && b`). I don't think we can have formal definition of this `not` behavior.
Matz.
----------------------------------------
Bug #21337: Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21337#change-113619
* Author: koic (Koichi ITO)
* Status: Assigned
* Assignee: prism
* ruby -v: ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
* Backport: 3.2: UNKNOWN, 3.3: UNKNOWN, 3.4: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
The following syntax behavior differs between Ruby 3.3 (parse.y by default) and Ruby 3.4 (Prism by default).
```ruby
if true && not true; end
```
## Expected
In Ruby 3.3 and earlier, the following code results in a syntax error. The default parser is `parse.y`.
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The key point is that `not` is used on the right-hand side of a logical operator.
## Actual
When the default parser is switched to Prism, it is accepted as valid syntax with Ruby 3.4+ (Prism by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
```
Specifying parse.y causes a syntax error, as before 3.3 (parse.y by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
$ ruby --parser=parse.y -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected 'true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The behavior seen in the parse.y producing a syntax error might be probably the expected one.
Any case, it is likely that users would not expect such a discrepancy between parsers.
This issue was noticed in the context of the following RuboCop issue:
https://github.com/rubocop/rubocop/issues/14177
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* [ruby-core:122450] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
2025-05-14 4:57 [ruby-core:122086] [Ruby Bug#21337] Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism koic (Koichi ITO) via ruby-core
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2025-06-05 8:53 ` [ruby-core:122438] " matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core
@ 2025-06-05 10:52 ` mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core
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From: mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core @ 2025-06-05 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ruby-core; +Cc: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
Issue #21337 has been updated by mame (Yusuke Endoh).
`p(not 1)` is also allowed in Ruby 3.4, but this should also be prohibited, @matz said.
@kddnewton @tenderlovemaking @eileencodes Can you fix this issue soon? We need to backport to 3.4 to stop Ruby 3.4 users writing such code.
----------------------------------------
Bug #21337: Using `not` on the RHS of a logical operator becomes valid syntax with Prism
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21337#change-113631
* Author: koic (Koichi ITO)
* Status: Assigned
* Assignee: prism
* ruby -v: ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
* Backport: 3.2: UNKNOWN, 3.3: UNKNOWN, 3.4: UNKNOWN
----------------------------------------
The following syntax behavior differs between Ruby 3.3 (parse.y by default) and Ruby 3.4 (Prism by default).
```ruby
if true && not true; end
```
## Expected
In Ruby 3.3 and earlier, the following code results in a syntax error. The default parser is `parse.y`.
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The key point is that `not` is used on the right-hand side of a logical operator.
## Actual
When the default parser is switched to Prism, it is accepted as valid syntax with Ruby 3.4+ (Prism by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.4.3 (2025-04-14 revision d0b7e5b6a0) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) +PRISM [x86_64-darwin24]
Syntax OK
```
Specifying parse.y causes a syntax error, as before 3.3 (parse.y by default):
```console
$ ruby -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.3.8 (2025-04-09 revision b200bad6cd) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected `true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
$ ruby --parser=parse.y -vce 'if true && not true; end'
ruby 3.5.0dev (2025-05-13T02:05:19Z master 9b8c846bdf) [x86_64-darwin24]
-e:1: syntax error, unexpected 'true', expecting '('
if true && not true; end
ruby: compile error (SyntaxError)
```
The behavior seen in the parse.y producing a syntax error might be probably the expected one.
Any case, it is likely that users would not expect such a discrepancy between parsers.
This issue was noticed in the context of the following RuboCop issue:
https://github.com/rubocop/rubocop/issues/14177
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