[ruby-core:122452] [Ruby Misc#21399] DevMeeting-2025-07-10

[ruby-core:122452] [Ruby Misc#21399] DevMeeting-2025-07-10

[mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core]

Issue #21399 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

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Misc #21399: DevMeeting-2025-07-10
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21399

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
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# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2025/07/10 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2025/07/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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[ruby-core:122586] [Ruby Misc#21399] DevMeeting-2025-07-10

[Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core]

Issue #21399 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


* [Feature #17473] Make Pathname to embedded class of Ruby (eregon)
  * Related to that issue and discussed there, I made a PR to define most of Pathname in Ruby: https://github.com/ruby/pathname/pull/53
  * It's faster, easier to read and maintain and enable sharing most of the Pathname implementation between Ruby implementations.
  * Could @akr review it? I wrote him on Slack but got no reply, maybe a core committer knows better how to contact him?
  * If @akr is not available, please let me know and I will try to find another reviewer.


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Misc #21399: DevMeeting-2025-07-10
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21399#change-113821

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
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# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2025/07/10 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2025/07/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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[ruby-core:122589] [Ruby Misc#21399] DevMeeting-2025-07-10

[ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core]

Issue #21399 has been updated by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).


- [Bug #19473] can't be called from trap context (ThreadError) is too limiting
  - Can we change the behaviour? https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/13545

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Misc #21399: DevMeeting-2025-07-10
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21399#change-113824

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2025/07/10 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2025/07/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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[ruby-core:122599] [Ruby Misc#21399] DevMeeting-2025-07-10

[tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson) via ruby-core]

Issue #21399 has been updated by tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson).


* [Feature #21140] Add a method for getting addresses of certain functions for 3rd party JITs
  * RJIT has been extracted to a gem, but it can't work without getting the address of certain functions
  * Not all JIT related functions are exported, so `dlsym` can't get the address
  * Proposed API is like this: `RubyVM::Internals.address_of(:rb_vm_ci_argc)`, where `rb_vm_ci_argc` is the function we want the address for
    * If the function exists, it returns the address
    * If not, it returns `nil`
  * This API should _not_ make guarantees about stability or portability
  * I have no strong feelings about the method or constant name, but `RubyVM::Internals` tries to communicate this is an _internal_ and _unstable_ API

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Misc #21399: DevMeeting-2025-07-10
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21399#change-113838

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2025/07/10 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2025/07/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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[ruby-core:122603] [Ruby Misc#21399] DevMeeting-2025-07-10

[hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core]

Issue #21399 has been updated by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA).


* [Feature #21442] Make tsort to bundled gems
  * Any objection for this?

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Misc #21399: DevMeeting-2025-07-10
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21399#change-113841

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2025/07/10 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2025/07/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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[ruby-core:122608] [Ruby Misc#21399] DevMeeting-2025-07-10

[Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core]

Issue #21399 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


* [Feature #21039] Ractor.make_shareable breaks block semantics (seeing updated captured variables) of existing blocks
  * How about `Ractor.make_shareable { ... }` which only allows literal block?
  * That avoids the well known problem of a block body being reinterpreted in different ways (like the same block as proc & lambda, or in this issue like a regular block and a block-with-snapshot-of-the-environment).
  * See https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21039#note-11 for details


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Misc #21399: DevMeeting-2025-07-10
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21399#change-113846

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2025/07/10 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2025/07/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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[ruby-core:122619] [Ruby Misc#21399] DevMeeting-2025-07-10

[jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) via ruby-core]

Issue #21399 has been updated by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans).


* [Feature #21459] Add Set C-API (jeremyevans0)
  * I would like to add a minimal C-API for Set.
  * We can add more functions later, but these are the ones I think would be necessary for extensions using core Set.
  * Is the PR OK?

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Misc #21399: DevMeeting-2025-07-10
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21399#change-113857

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2025/07/10 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2025/07/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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