From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mod.civil.su.OZ.AU ([129.78.142.6]) by hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu with SMTP id <2685>; Thu, 5 Aug 1993 21:03:11 -0400 Received: by mod.civil.su.oz.au id <28694>; Fri, 6 Aug 1993 11:02:27 +1000 From: John (Most modern computers would break if you stood on them) Mackin Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 20:59:50 -0400 To: forsyth@minster.york.ac.uk cc: sam-fans@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu Subject: Re: teaching novices to use sam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199308061059.7101.sam.bafey@civil.su.oz.au> X-Face: 39seV7n\`#asqOFdx#oj/Uz*lseO_1n9n7rQS;~ve\e`&Z},nU1+>0X^>mg&M.^X$[ez>{F k5[Ah<7xBWF-@-ru?& @4K4-b`ydd^`(n%Z{ has anyone, perhaps at a university, any experience in trying to get novices (ie, students) to use sam as a first editor? Yes. They did (are still doing?) research on this at the Basser Department of Computer Science here at the University of Sydney. You might want to ask Judy Kay () about it directly; I suspect she's not on this list, but I believe she is/was involved with the research. OK, John.