From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ben.britain.eu.net ([192.91.199.254]) by hawkwind.utcs.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <24130>; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 03:31:49 -0400 Received: from a.gec-epl.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via PSS with NIFTP (PP) id ; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 08:30:51 +0100 Received: from zombie.gec-epl.co.uk (zombie.limbo.gec-epl.co.uk) by vampire.gec-epl.co.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07937; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 08:34:51 +0000 Received: by zombie.gec-epl.co.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07914; Mon, 19 Sep 1994 08:27:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 04:27:43 -0400 From: steve@cegelecproj.co.uk (Steve_Kilbane) Message-Id: <9409190727.AA07914@zombie.gec-epl.co.uk> To: sam-fans@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu Subject: Re: (click) undo X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Face: Iqsa(US9p?)Y^W+6Ff[Z]rM"uFE) lFDjag1e]\/#2 > indeed, i undo with some frequency, and a good portion of those undoes > are necessiated outside the sam window, which means going back and forth > between the sam window and the current window. I'm not sure what you mean by this - in my experience, undo is done in the following circumstances: - as part of a cmd-u-cmd-u sequence, as i try to get the cmd *just* right. - in a long sequence of u,u,u,u... as i decide that what i've done for the last ten minutes is the wrong tack - just once, because i'm forgotten to change the focus before typing. I don't see that there's a great need for repetition that justifies changing both menu and protocol. The nearest case I can think of is application of the second case (lots of undos), where it's necessary to scroll the target window to see how much of the sequence you've unwound. However, the fault here is in samterm - it should scroll to display dot after an undo. 'Course, that's another can of worms, because samterm doesn't know it's an undo... > i cannot however use my own > odd editing activities as a basis good design, and i also think that there > may be more than one design issue involved here. i still wonder what other > sam-fans think. as i've mentioned before, I think the command language is lacking in the areas of snarfing, cutting and pasting - i've tried to emulate them with copies to a scratch window, but i almost always run up against "?addresses out of order" (or whatever it is). I don't know whether there's a solid reason for their absence, or just original preference. rob? steve