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From: Jeff <sysinit@yandex.com>
To: supervision <supervision@list.skarnet.org>
Subject: Runit
Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 04:15:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11603811556849700@myt5-262fb1897c00.qloud-c.yandex.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADQ2Nw_3hGEhFtY1cQptDL3LQJOPNyNQ0ax8zEF=PTi1PDcmmA@mail.gmail.com>

>>  If something kills runsvdir, then runit immediately enters
>>  stage 3, and reboots the system. This is an acceptable response
>>  to the scanner dying, but is not the same thing as supervising
>>  it. If runsvdir's death is accidental, the system goes through
>>  an unnecessary reboot.
>
> If the /etc/runit/2 process exits with code 111 or gets killed by a
> signal, the runit program is actually supposed to respawn it,
> according to its man page. I believe this counts as supervising at
> least one process, so it would put runit in the "correct init" camp :)
>
> There is code that checks the 'wstat' value returned by a
> wait_nohang(&wstat) call that reaps the /etc/runit/2 process, however,
> it is executed only if wait_exitcode(wstat) != 0. On my computer,
> wait_exitcode() returns 0 if its argument is the wstat of a process
> killed by a signal, so runit indeed spawns /etc/runit/3 instead of
> respawning /etc/runit/2 when, for example, I point a gun at runsvdir
> on purpose and use a kill -int command specifying its PID. Changing
> the condition to wait_crashed(wstat) || (wait_exitcode(wstat) != 0)
> makes things work as intended.

that is again one of several runit problems. among them:

- see above
- no setsid(2) for child procs by default in "runsv"
- having only runsv managing the log pipe.
- runit-init requires rw fs access without the slightest need
  (setting the +x bit of  the /etc/runit/(stopit,reboot) files
  which could indeed reside on a tmpfs in /run and be
  symlinks have symlinks pointing to them (that is done in
  Void Linux)
- problems with log files while bringing down the system.
  i never encountered that with daemontools-encore, perp(d)
  and s6.

so it is a quite dated project that clearly shows its age.
i would recommend against using it at all (except its
"chpst" and "utmpset" utilities).




      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-03  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-29 21:33 further claims Jeff
2019-04-30  8:56 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-05-01 23:09   ` Guillermo
2019-05-02  0:30     ` Colin Booth
2019-05-03  2:44       ` ToyBox oneit Jeff
2019-05-05  2:07         ` ToyBox init Jeff
2019-05-03  2:15     ` Jeff [this message]

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