From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/2601 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeff Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: correct init Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:52:49 +0200 Message-ID: <1250951558021969@iva4-8a4a0d5be508.qloud-c.yandex.net> References: <921971558020826@sas2-c434f6e124b6.qloud-c.yandex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="80004"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Original-X-From: supervision-return-2191-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Thu May 16 17:52:54 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from alyss.skarnet.org ([95.142.172.232]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hRIgf-000KjV-2v for gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 17:52:53 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3659 invoked by uid 89); 16 May 2019 15:53:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Original-Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Original-Received: (qmail 3652 invoked from network); 16 May 2019 15:53:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1558021969; bh=o2/z7+qOczYXMONH2RQMmWHpdLWv/K2lgVMIvgfXnu0=; h=Message-Id:Subject:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To:From; b=wlWfdPj/XRR7iWWnTzCNL1aGqE/XDanO9aZZPPulN4A1TeznqCngU2f8SJVEBoIag Q0EF3a56M9rp1IYZy4im+qoyLgUMJR3Nc1C5cX49Ga30sJhEAEuSyyrerAYBChPZSz B8MLomQb831TJyh/k5VtFCqpFoZVDaZgRJ3RP9uc= Authentication-Results: mxback12o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com In-Reply-To: <921971558020826@sas2-c434f6e124b6.qloud-c.yandex.net> X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:2601 Archived-At: > process #1 should not rely on conditions that it has not previously > ascertained to be true (eg by setting something up by itself, so it > exists and is safe to use/rely on it). > sounds self-evident ? sadly many inits do not comply with that > postulation, a well known example that comes immediatly to mind > is the poorly designed/though out SysV init itself. it also relies on syslog for logging, though it cannot ensure someone listens to /dev/log and processes the log messages.