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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21365 YMailNorrin Laurent Bercot wrote: >=C2=A0 If your system clock is set to TAI-10, [...] > I don't know exactly what u mean with "TAI-10". I guess u are refering to those 10seconds that were the initial difference between UTC and TAI at the start of 1972..= . So it should be TAI-00:00:10... > [...] then *all* the time-handling > software on your machine must be aware of it, > here i disagree a little bit: As long as the software uses glibc's time functions to break down "seconds since the start of 1970* to year, month, mday, hours, minutes, sec= onds, the software does not need any patches... Ur link is a little bit misleading or outdated in that point... exim, fetchmail, dma and s-nail need(ed) a change, because: They omitted the non-zero seconds instead of converting the timestamp to UTC and printing the timezone as -00:00 (with a minus). > I don't think you'll be able to keep running Void with a full TAI-10 > What would be wrong about the "-tttt" (localtime time stamp) option? Then I would not have to build/write my own *log daemon... And svlogd just needs to use localtime_r(3)...