Gerrit Pape [Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:17:34AM +0100]:
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 09:57:42PM +0100, nico-linux@schottelius.org wrote:
> > Can you use dependencies in stage 1 and 3, too?
> 
> You can do all you like in stage 1 and 3, they're just shell scripts.

what I meant are dependencies in that may runit does it from itself.
 
> > I really like the style of minit, as it is generally simple, but
> > I like the three stages of runit, although I am missing the
> > dependencies in the first and last stage.
> 
> I've never had the need for this. 

I am for example only starting services if the mounts went well.

> Stage 1 simply prepares the system to
> run services (fsck, mount file systems, ...), stage 3 takes care of
> bringing the services down reliably

but stage3 is _my_ work...and can be faulty.

> and prepares the system for shutdown.
> There's no parallelism in these stage,

why not? I can mount three filesystems parallel.

> and so no need for dependencies
> AFAICS.

We'll see.

> Please discuss runit on the <supervision@list.skarnet.org> mailing list,
> not with me privately.  I prefer public discussions about free software.

Me too.

I even would like to discuss this stuff on the minit mailing list, too,
but I am not a friend of crossposting and perhaps some of the users
of minit are here, too.

What I am exactly looking for is:

- something fast
- something reliable
- something simple

I am currently building up a new Linux distribution and don't want
to use the old style sysVinit, although there are some scripts I wrote
which make bootin quiet fast, too.

Another aspect I am not clear about:

Should *init do supervising? Are the daemontools unecessary in this
case?

Just the need for some information,

Nico

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