From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/516 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gerrit Pape Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: svlogd localtime option Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:11:28 +0000 Message-ID: <20040711191130.25168.qmail@50c27bedcfdd01.315fe32.mid.smarden.org> References: <871xjvo66s.wl@badger.wordzoo.com> <20040704054801.5939.qmail@f950a45d36ced0.315fe32.mid.smarden.org> <87u0whk2qk.wl@badger.wordzoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1089573085 12537 80.91.224.253 (11 Jul 2004 19:11:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: supervision-return-754-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Sun Jul 11 21:11:17 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from antah.skarnet.org ([212.85.147.14]) by deer.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BjjjJ-0003fR-00 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 21:11:17 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 17784 invoked by uid 76); 11 Jul 2004 19:11:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: Original-Received: (qmail 17779 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2004 19:11:34 -0000 Original-To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Mail-Followup-To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87u0whk2qk.wl@badger.wordzoo.com> Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:516 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:516 On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:24:03AM -0700, Jared Rhine wrote: > Gerrit> Using TAI or UTC has the great advantage that logs are > Gerrit> sortable after merging, this is not guaranteed when using > Gerrit> localtime. > Gerrit> I think it's better to let the pager used to display logs do > Gerrit> such jobs. > > Fair enough. But reasonable people can disagree on methods and > practices, and not everyone uses a pager for browsing. This one > single issue is the sole gripe about the functionality of runit. > > It's trivial for me to substitute gmtime with localtime, and my latest > installs are working great like that. But now I'm maintaining a fork, > which seems silly for such a small (and useful!) change. But if such > an enhancement would be rejected on design grounds, it's important > enough for me to do so. I'd rather put that time into a patch that > would be accepted; > Anyway, that's my pitch. I tried to state it as strongly as I > politely can. Still your call on the design/patch acceptance issue of > course. I definitely prefer UTC over localtime, and have my system's clocks set to UTC anyway, so I'm personally not that much interested. I cannot promise acceptance of a patch, but if this feature is added to svlogd, it should be provided through the -ttt option I think; the documentation should prominently mention the drawbacks of localtime timestamps. I very appreciate contribution to my open projects http://smarden.org/pape/#contribution Thanks, Gerrit.