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From: Gerrit Pape <pape@smarden.org>
Subject: Re: runsv and process groups
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:48:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040826204817.1893.qmail@a4750aef5ce996.315fe32.mid.smarden.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0408261233330.28063-100000@e-smith.charlieb.ott.istop.com>

On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:05:13PM -0400, Charlie Brady wrote:
> On 26 Aug 2004, Clemens Fischer wrote:
> > > it be easier for (nearly) everyone if runsv did it?
> > for me this is about choice,
> I don't see how your freedom would be curtailed if runsv's behaviour was a 
> little different.
Once setsid() is called there's no way back.

> > but you certainly have a point.  AFAIC i prefer the current way and
> > advice in the runsv(8) documentation to add the "chpst -P ..." bit for
> > the "default case".
> The runsv documentation doesn't currently have advice to use "chpst -P
> ..." in run scripts, and very few of the publicly available run scripts
> add that "safety belt". IIUC, your suggestion is that that documentation
> is added. Mine is that the bahviour of runsv is changed - I don't accept 
> that your proposed scenario is a real-world case, but if it is, I expect 
> you can find a simple solution which suits your needs. And if not, then 
> you could revert the proposed change in the source code.

> I'm still curious about Gerrit's opinion. Is there a good reason why runsv 
> doesn't put each run script in a new process group? [Other than the 
> obvious reason that that would be different behavior to daemontools].

Hm, I'm not sure yet.  What do you think about runsvdir running runsv in
a new process group, and not runsv the run script?

Regards, Gerrit.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-26 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-19 17:30 getty trouble Dan Melomedman
2004-08-20  7:19 ` Gerrit Pape
2004-08-20 16:45   ` Dan Melomedman
2004-08-23  0:04   ` runsv and process groups (was Re: getty trouble) Charlie Brady
2004-08-23 13:26     ` runsv and process groups Clemens Fischer
2004-08-23 21:29       ` Charlie Brady
2004-08-26 16:27         ` Clemens Fischer
2004-08-26 17:05           ` Charlie Brady
2004-08-26 20:48             ` Gerrit Pape [this message]
2004-08-26 20:57               ` Paul Jarc
2004-08-29  9:39                 ` Gerrit Pape
2004-08-27  1:06               ` Charlie Brady
2004-09-11  9:58                 ` Gerrit Pape

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