From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/997 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gerrit Pape Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: runit and System shutdown Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:28:05 +0000 Message-ID: <20060201102805.990.qmail@23f70536aae771.315fe32.mid.smarden.org> References: <20060127101745.GB4010@b491.dyndns.org> <43DE7B3C.7080501@zweipol.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138789681 16519 80.91.229.2 (1 Feb 2006 10:28:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: supervision-return-1233-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Wed Feb 01 11:27:58 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcsg-supervision@gmane.org Original-Received: from antah.skarnet.org ([212.85.147.14]) by ciao.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4FDG-0005BQ-Tv for gcsg-supervision@gmane.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:27:47 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 3222 invoked by uid 76); 1 Feb 2006 10:28:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: Original-Received: (qmail 3217 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2006 10:28:06 -0000 Original-To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Mail-Followup-To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43DE7B3C.7080501@zweipol.net> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:997 Archived-At: On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 09:46:52PM +0100, Henrik Heil wrote: > >i am using runit 1.0.5 on my Debian/Sarge for all the Daemons except > >postfix. runsvdir-start is run from inittab. For running postfix under service supervision, take a look at the runit-services Debian package (sid/etch) I introduced recently. It includes a service directory for Debian's postfix. > I have a similar setup on 2 servers and was wondering about the right > way to do this. > > >To me this sounds like total loss of control. Its quite a > >mess. Is there something i dont understand? Shouldnt there be an > >init-script that does runsvctrl d /var/services/* as the first Action > >in Runlevel 0? > > In addition to the the shutdown of runsv, services and logservices in no > particular order I recently noticed that with the default inittab-entry > in runlevel 6: > > * sendsigs TERM makes runsvdir exit immediatly, tells all processes to > terminate an waits 5 seconds > * meanwhile SysV-init restarts runsvdir and runsvdir starts all services > * after 5 seconds all services are killed(-9) by sendsigs Yes, the shutdown with runsvdir-start run from inittab seems to be far from perfect. > I am using this inittab-entry for now: > > RT1a:12345:respawn:/usr/sbin/runsvdir-start > RT1b:06:once:/usr/sbin/runsvdir-start > > I am not shure about the shutdown-initscript. I was thinking in that > direction but would like to use "svwaitdown -x -t 10 /var/services/*" > because > > * it waits for the services to actually stop. > * I believe it guarantees to stop the logservice after the service (is > this correct?). Yes this is correct. In contrary to daemontools, there's only one supervisor process per service, handling the service and the log service. When told to exit, runsv only tells the service to terminate, and waits for the logger to stop afterwards (automatically due to closed standard input). So no logs are lost. > So an (untested) shutdown-script would be: > > kill `pidof runsvdir` > svwaitdown -x -t 10 /var/services/* I haven't updated the stage 3 scripts yet in runit-1.3.3, but after the sv program has been introduced, better use something like this echo 'Waiting for services to stop...' sv -w196 force-stop /var/service/* sv exit /var/service/* > (only works if runsvdir does not respawn -- see above) > > Apart from the SysV-integration problem with the respawning runsvdir I > think runit does the right thing when the commands receive a TERM signal: > > If runsv receives a TERM it acts like runsvctl x. > If runsvdir receives a TERM signal, it exits with 0 immediately. This is the right thing when using runit as process 1, yes. The stage 3 script then can take care of reliable and clean shutdown. > Even if you don't stop any services I believe it's unlikely that runsv > tries to restart a service before it receives sendsigs TERM and itsself > waits for the service to exit. So if you don't have somthing that takes > more than 5 seconds to stop nothing too bad should happen. > > But I am still not too familiar with process supervision an would really > like to hear comments or a recommended way to stop runit under SysV-init > from the experts. I personally no longer run runit under sysvinit, but use runit as process no 1 and possibly some sysv init script in stage 1. Basically you can switch from init to runit as process 1 without changing the system bootup, you only lose sysv runlevel handling, and the respawn feature through inittab AFAICS. If you by default boot into runlevel 2, just add the rc scripts to stage 1 (/etc/runit/1), services normally run through init scripts should come up as usual, e.g. #!/bin/sh # system one time tasks PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin /etc/init.d/rcS /etc/init.d/rc 2 ... HTH, Gerrit.