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From: Vincent Danen <vdanen@linsec.ca>
Subject: Re: runit upgrades and halt rather than reboot
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:03:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060211190328.GK1391@annvix.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060203165552.17710.qmail@238ebfa254faf9.315fe32.mid.smarden.org>

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* Gerrit Pape <pape@smarden.org> [2006-02-03 16:55:52 +0000]:

> > > > I'm encountering a really odd problem.  When I upgrade runit, when I do
> > > > a "reboot" or "init 6", runit goes into poweroff mode rather than
> > > > reboot.  I'm gearing up to put out my next version of Annvix so am doing
> > > > some testing and we upgraded from runit 1.3.1 to 1.3.3 and on each test
> > > > instance (2 x86 and 1 x86_64), once all the packages were upgraded
> > > > (including runit), when I did reboot (the first two) and "init 6" (the
> > > > last one), they powered off.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure if this is because the /sbin/init binary changed or what,
> > > > but it's *really* annoying, particularly since I know some folks who use
> > > > Annvix at remote locations (myself as well) and a trip to the colo to
> > > > turn the machine on after the upgrade would, well, stink.  =)
> > > > 
> > > > Any ideas as to what might be the problem and how I can rectify it?
> > > > After that reboot, runit is fine... reboot works as advertised, as does
> > > > halt, etc.  But it's just that one reboot after it's been upgraded that
> > > > is problematic.
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure from your description.  With a preliminary runit Debian
> > > package, on shutdown after package upgrade, the root filesystem wasn't
> > > unmounted cleanly, because /sbin/runit was replaced.  The workaround is
> > > to first copy /sbin/runit to /sbin/runit.old, then replace /sbin/runit.
> > > After reboot, /sbin/runit.old can be removed again.  Maybe it's worth a
> > > try.
> > 
> > Hmmm...  that might not be a bad idea to try.  So instead of running
> > reboot/halt/shutdown, run "init.old 6" (I renamed runit to init).
> 
> No, you can still use `init 6` with the new binary.  It's just that the
> old, still running, /sbin/init still has an inode on the filesystem;
> that's what the copy is for.  I'm not sure it solves your problem
> though.

Ok, maybe I'm missing something, but the inode is different on the copy.

[root@cerberus sbin]# cp init init.org
[root@cerberus sbin]# ls -i init init.org
6374308 init*  6301334 init.org*

But then if I do:

[root@cerberus sbin]# cp /bin/ls init.org
[root@cerberus sbin]# ls -i init.org
6301334 init.org*

So even though the contents of init.org have drastically changed, the
inode is still the same.  The same would obviously hold true for init,
when it's replaced during an rpm upgrade.

I don't think it solves the problem (I did try a few days ago and it
still halted the system), but maybe this explains the why; the copy
apparently isn't needed it we're trying to preserve the inode, or is
there a way to copy a file by specifying the inode?  I'll admit I'm a
bit out of my depth on this one (no options seemed to present themself
from cp --help).

If there is one thing that is problematic for me (and Annvix users) is
that runit, when it is upgraded, always halts the system.  There has to
be a way to fix this.  It's my one last great bug.  =)

Any ideas at all, from anyone, would be greatly appreciated.

> > I'll give that a try, Gerrit.  It makes things a bit messy, but nothing
> > a startup script can't check for and cleanup.
> 
> I have this in /etc/runit/1
>  rm -f /sbin/runit.old

Yup, that would do it, but I'm not convinced the old file makes a
difference.  I'm going to try again (via the rpm package rather than
manually copying) to see if it makes a difference.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-11 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-02  4:20 Vincent Danen
2006-02-03 15:40 ` Gerrit Pape
2006-02-03 16:45   ` Vincent Danen
2006-02-03 16:55     ` Gerrit Pape
2006-02-03 17:04       ` Vincent Danen
2006-02-11 19:03       ` Vincent Danen [this message]
2006-02-11 19:11         ` Paul Jarc
2006-02-11 19:44           ` Vincent Danen
2006-02-13 14:44             ` Gerrit Pape
2006-02-14  4:08               ` Vincent Danen
2006-02-14  5:22                 ` Joshua N Pritikin
2006-02-14  5:42                 ` copy runit-init to /sbin/init or not Alex Efros
2006-02-14  6:04                   ` Vincent Danen
2006-02-14 14:08                     ` Alex Efros
2006-02-14 18:49                       ` Vincent Danen

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