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From: Alex Efros <powerman@powerman.asdfGroup.com>
To: supervision@list.skarnet.org
Subject: Re: runit not collecting zombies
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:09:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070716000927.GY23517@home.power> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707151920550.11383@e-smith.charlieb.ott.istop.com>

Hi!

On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 07:23:13PM -0400, Charlie Brady wrote:
> So there are two problems there - the processes which are outliving their 
> parents, and runit as process 1. Most people here seem to be ignoring the 
> first problem, and instead are just looking for a magic fix by someone 
> solving problem 2.

Ohh. Okay, okay, I think we all agree with you about 'generating zombies'
is a Bad Thing (tm). But real world is slightly different from ideal world.
In real world we've a 'zombie processes', which are part of *NIX
architecture, and which can't be solved by just stopping generating
zombies - because there a lot of existing applications (like OpenSSH)
which already generate zombies, and because there exists some cases when
zombies may and will be generated anyway.

In this situation, the Right Thing is solve this issue between runit and
linux kernel.

So. If this is a race condition bug in linux kernel 2.6.20, how to debug it?
Maybe some sort of patch, which will add some debug printf()'s into both 
kernel AND runit? Maybe this bug not in kernel, but in glibc's wrapper for
wait() or something else? I'm not a C programmer, so it's hard enough for
me to debug this myself. :(

-- 
			WBR, Alex.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-16  0:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-24 23:07 Radek Podgorny
2007-05-26 10:35 ` Alex Efros
2007-05-26 10:45   ` Alex Efros
2007-05-26 12:55   ` Charlie Brady
2007-05-26 13:03     ` Alex Efros
2007-05-26 17:01   ` Paul Jarc
2007-06-02 14:55     ` Alex Efros
2007-06-03 11:10   ` Gerrit Pape
2007-06-03 14:33     ` Alex Efros
2007-06-03 16:31       ` Gerrit Pape
2007-06-11 13:11     ` Alex Efros
2007-06-18 13:45       ` Alex Efros
2007-06-19 18:13         ` Gerrit Pape
2007-06-19 19:07           ` Alex Efros
2007-06-20 16:23             ` Gerrit Pape
2007-06-20 16:57               ` Alex Efros
2007-06-20 18:35                 ` Gerrit Pape
2007-06-23  4:42                   ` Alex Efros
2007-06-26  9:59                     ` Gerrit Pape
2007-07-07  7:16                       ` Alex Efros
2007-07-07 18:13                         ` Charlie Brady
2007-07-07 19:12                           ` Alex Efros
2007-07-12 14:21                             ` Charlie Brady
2007-07-12 14:41                               ` Alex Efros
2007-07-12 14:45                                 ` Charlie Brady
2007-07-12 14:57                                   ` Alex Efros
2007-07-12 14:42                           ` Charlie Brady
2007-07-12 14:43                             ` Charlie Brady
2007-07-12 14:49                             ` Alex Efros
2007-07-12 15:11                               ` Charlie Brady
2007-07-12 15:15                                 ` Alex Efros
2007-07-12 15:40                                   ` Charlie Brady
2007-07-15 14:47                       ` Alex Efros
2007-07-15 19:07                         ` Alex Efros
2007-07-15 20:18                           ` George Georgalis
2007-07-15 20:31                             ` Paul Jarc
2007-07-15 22:35                               ` George Georgalis
2007-07-15 23:06                                 ` Paul Jarc
2007-07-15 23:23                                   ` Charlie Brady
2007-07-16  0:09                                     ` Alex Efros [this message]
2007-07-16  2:11                                       ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-12 12:53                                         ` Radek Podgorny
     [not found]                                         ` <47939.::ffff:77.75.72.5.1189601606.squirrel@mail.podgorny.cz>
2007-09-12 13:55                                           ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-12 14:35                                             ` Alex Efros
2007-09-12 14:55                                               ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-12 15:00                                                 ` Alex Efros
2007-09-12 16:02                                                   ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-12 16:10                                                     ` Radek Podgorny
2007-09-12 17:22                                                     ` Alex Efros
2007-09-12 17:40                                                       ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-12 18:18                                                         ` Alex Efros
2007-09-12 19:07                                                           ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-12 19:13                                                             ` Alex Efros
2007-09-12 19:18                                                               ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-12 19:30                                                                 ` Alex Efros
2007-09-12 19:37                                                                   ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-15 13:36                                                                 ` Alex Efros
2007-09-15 13:57                                                                   ` Alex Efros
2007-09-15 15:20                                                                     ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-15 15:28                                                                       ` Alex Efros
2007-09-15 15:47                                                                         ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-15 16:02                                                                           ` Alex Efros
2007-09-15 15:49                                                                         ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-15 15:55                                                                           ` Alex Efros
2007-09-15 16:02                                                                             ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-15 15:36                                                                       ` Alex Efros
2007-09-15 15:58                                                                         ` Charlie Brady
2007-09-15 14:03                                                                   ` Alex Efros
2007-09-17  7:56                                                                   ` Gerrit Pape
2007-09-17  9:07                                                                     ` Radek Podgorny
2007-09-17 11:59                                                                     ` Alex Efros
2007-09-18  8:14                                                                       ` Gerrit Pape
2007-09-18 11:33                                                                         ` Alex Efros
2007-09-18 11:45                                                                         ` Laurent Bercot
2011-02-15 13:12                                                                         ` [LONG] " Laurent Bercot
2011-02-15 15:00                                                                           ` Alex Efros
2011-02-15 15:22                                                                             ` Laurent Bercot
2007-09-12 16:04                                                   ` Radek Podgorny
     [not found]                                                   ` <35517.::ffff:77.75.72.5.1189613042.squirrel@mail.podgorny.cz>
2007-09-12 17:04                                                     ` Alex Efros
2007-09-12 19:38                                                       ` Mike Buland
2007-09-12 20:28                                                         ` Alex Efros
2007-09-12 20:38                                                           ` Alex Efros
2007-09-13  1:05                                                           ` Mike Buland
2007-09-13  8:58                                                       ` Radek Podgorny
     [not found]                                                       ` <50411.::ffff:77.75.72.5.1189673890.squirrel@mail.podgorny.cz>
2007-09-13 10:57                                                         ` Alex Efros
2007-09-13 12:06                                                           ` Alex Efros
2007-09-13 14:31                                                           ` Radek Podgorny
     [not found]                                                           ` <51910.::ffff:77.75.72.5.1189693860.squirrel@mail.podgorny.cz>
2007-09-13 14:51                                                             ` Alex Efros
2007-07-16  2:24                                   ` George Georgalis
2007-07-01  8:43                   ` Radek Podgorny
2007-07-02  8:28                     ` Gerrit Pape
2007-07-02 11:23                       ` Radek Podgorny
2007-07-02 12:14                         ` Gerrit Pape
2007-07-02 12:42                           ` Radek Podgorny
2007-07-07  4:54                       ` Alex Efros
2007-06-20 19:57                 ` Charlie Brady
2008-02-25  7:25 ` Alex Efros
2008-02-25 14:57   ` Charlie Brady
2008-02-25 15:23     ` Radek Podgorny
     [not found]     ` <59012.::ffff:77.75.72.226.1203952988.squirrel@mail.podgorny.cz>
2008-02-25 15:26       ` George Georgalis
2008-02-25 15:32       ` Charlie Brady
2008-02-25 16:17         ` Alex Efros
2008-02-25 17:20       ` Mike Buland
2008-02-25 15:27   ` Radek Podgorny
     [not found]   ` <34616.::ffff:77.75.72.226.1203953244.squirrel@mail.podgorny.cz>
2008-02-25 16:15     ` Alex Efros
2008-02-27  8:19   ` Bernhard Graf
2008-02-27  8:36     ` Alex Efros
2008-02-27  8:58       ` Bernhard Graf
     [not found] ` <F694D808C0BB4890A12C565F68B9A691@home.internal>
2008-02-25 16:24   ` rehan khan
2008-02-25 16:27     ` Charlie Brady
     [not found]     ` <54B6D6D6D32D4DB685F8CA9A836076D7@home.internal>
2008-02-25 17:11       ` rehan khan
2008-02-25 19:13     ` Charlie Brady
2008-10-21 21:46 ` Alex Efros

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