From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/2241 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Engels Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.devel.hackers,gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: Linuxisms in s6 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:48:20 +0200 Message-ID: <20160825194820.GI92256@e-new.0x20.net> References: <37d5159b-4957-42f8-2252-fa53d7446bb6@NTLWorld.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9iyR+p8Z2cn535Lj" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472155925 18773 195.159.176.226 (25 Aug 2016 20:12:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:12:05 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: Supervision , Jonathan de Boyne Pollard , FreeBSD Hackers To: Adrian Chadd Original-X-From: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Thu Aug 25 22:11:59 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: freebsd-hackers@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mx2.freebsd.org ([8.8.178.116]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bd10I-00049m-2m for freebsd-hackers@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 22:11:58 +0200 Original-Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69F6B6605C; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org) Original-Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F691263; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org) Original-Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C19BC6873 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Original-Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "0x20.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FB62113A; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Original-Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7B606E0082; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u7PJmLAF033943; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:48:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Original-Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id u7PJmKEk032882; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 21:48:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p23 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:11:52 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Original-Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.os.freebsd.devel.hackers:57942 gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:2241 Archived-At: --9iyR+p8Z2cn535Lj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 08:46:10AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 24 August 2016 at 21:53, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > wrote: > > http://adrianchadd.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/freebsd-on-tiny-system-whats-= missing.html?showComment=3D1471236502051#c1305086913155850955 > > , Adrian Chadd: > > > >> We're using s6 at work, and it works out mostly ok. Mostly once you get > >> around the linuxisms, and the lack of sensible time code in it (its > >> calculations for daemon run duration is based on system time, not wall > >> clock, so if your box boots jan 1, 1970 then gets NTP, things are.. > >> hilarious), and some of the arcane bits to get logging working right. > >> > > What are these Linuxisms in s6? s6-linux-utils and s6-linux-init have > > Linuxisms, obviously. But what Linuxisms does s6 have? >=20 > We just had a bunch of fun trying to get it to build right, and the > uptime stuff really threw us. >=20 > It's fine though, I found that s6 may start growing an IPC mechanism > so we could possibly do a launchd/jobd style service later (ie to run > things upon event changes, like ifup, ifdown, ifcreate, ifdestroy, > arbitrary messages, etc) so I may try incorporating it again. :) >=20 Can't this be done with devd?=20 --9iyR+p8Z2cn535Lj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJXv0uDXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tuBAH/31yXT1XuIS+ZLS/5o5w1OdP w+UYHz6+6BaaLNyp5YlMR8hodeXkzUr0uiaDLJUijKuPYCHt2DfhWs8lDyeG/pub 16MFffeSetsvmSwvo+/grONzEHU+BSIuvgvF3F/4aZWvheW31GCAXNqxbQPrbYqf K2DVeFgh1Kb8vZsfFjTCPHm7rcYJ71NH+smXZ3Y91KFHWRc3vIYH5R/a3/AUKmbw TVtXDT7Fv8f2EJYsNBFa1Jcb+Nlg0GZvkqyUKPUylMUrwqennyq1H5SH3dlIl3x1 THQ/E0Uckuh6Ed5cEa73Pzepf8lIZRwXvO2l442PMqisixbfAbUgDwpZbmU6BDs= =KXRV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9iyR+p8Z2cn535Lj--