From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/2676 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Casper Ti. Vector" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: The "Unix Philosophy 2020" document Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 03:14:38 +0800 Message-ID: <20191012191438.gusw2behc6cfvdgb@CasperVector> References: <20190831130730.ki6ma7i5curucowe@caspervector> <20190901091157.bjtfhqq6d2rg75yo@CasperVector> <20190927083816.tectynx7dzlfcvb7@CasperVector> <20191012173743.drzlgnrw4hib6hh4@CasperVector> <20191012145859.1b568c45@mydesk.domain.cxm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="40671"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Original-X-From: supervision-return-2266-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Sat Oct 12 21:14:48 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from alyss.skarnet.org ([95.142.172.232]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iJMql-000ATh-5G for gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:14:47 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 27103 invoked by uid 89); 12 Oct 2019 19:15:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Original-Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Original-Received: (qmail 27096 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2019 19:15:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=YiGnTFVitjWJJYErSsgW7/oYoBLOs34BWYtlQ+lhiM0=; b=ZFAvV8BqRC5ZIli9yIYBy9lTaZqdAnF45cf5T51ADtx4vxTsLY6ZkFpLv2DsITGS/l kaKhxQtLBok5G7+uHWdHfHslEd8CR+/X/Tk8mj94UKLg7YPgq6dpT/FQKtJtwBCLUKa0 juhOxO9kSukGvEjxfQOwo+tsmLWiDzG0C+DJKuzKCXd4QlYML0uyphsv1509pMDrIbrl RJ1jr6vdZ4PVwm4X1KT2X5X7apW96+PMa8Sn80Z370Yn8qrMjbedGGsGzfRfCwJScJn7 oc5hPVSRNWEBj8n3RsHpL+Yy3qe7Q1o54lY1hXw90TU7pnR7V+RlJt0tsqluxRF+Hafi b/YQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=YiGnTFVitjWJJYErSsgW7/oYoBLOs34BWYtlQ+lhiM0=; b=emRLDC1SFAzIP3iUaoiCTLkHdO9ybBjXQv4ebs7oxbwOHu808UfvuQ0xBQOIQ9UdBE ztTaXEmhZRYHb3gOs0cLe6I0xvKeEX1WFjbbIxiiEZVLrAnXBFM168DvyH1f1bAM1F6I owtmShvYX+4UoWAK1qSe9WpucfcYmDv9lqOtVSaybUOYLdWh2Bs07RvIl3ykGbXlNmBz 8HeaYXg5h8VuJf7gIDUaK9rinyfx4rmzcizdPmn5B/4KCBChk630VCfwnEBV98uT26K7 TojV/Y9WpWnIJusoePpfceOvTbQZD5Sn7na58Omg9K2P36oQTb3DGbYUgujPc3K91GHv syoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWaKqo6S81A5j7BvmHv0N+e/W2K40oa/fSwDxFgFS07hkaqi7wU q7o/R8Pq/nNCNEabW02SqP+dEUpG X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyuKCa88wOXuQiaxTPWxFHK7ZyDfhNLs9NWxMgZMtU3zHk/QdmioCcPwYE5feRfX0+7gPTuRA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9349:: with SMTP id g9mr20387639plp.75.1570907684169; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 12:14:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "Casper Ti. Vector" Mail-Followup-To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191012145859.1b568c45@mydesk.domain.cxm> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:2676 Archived-At: On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 02:58:59PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > [...] > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/systemd/lol_systemd.htm > [...] Well, I knew that, and cited your diagrams ([15] and [18] in the document as of v0.1.1). I believe those who told me the point about cohesion and coupling in the systemd architecture may seem unfounded to *people who have very little prior knowledge about systemd* are well-intentioned and are not fanboys. Thank you anyway for the expressive diagrams and past discussions on related topics! -- My current OpenPGP key: RSA4096/0x227E8CAAB7AA186C (expires: 2020.10.19) 7077 7781 B859 5166 AE07 0286 227E 8CAA B7AA 186C