From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/2784 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Schad Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: s6 usability Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 01:18:03 +0100 Organization: Automatic Server AG Message-ID: <20191224011803.04838458@dickeberta> References: <20191125214342.y7lx5mixrljr6s27@gromit.local> <20191127203307.ohaameqfgncm52h5@gromit.local> <20191129140901.klifpegc74iv4zul@klumpi.ignorelist.com> <20191221092639.p5iid3y3csmni4iw@klumpi.ignorelist.com> <20191222153327.6ee088bd@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20191223022821.6c13cff6@dickeberta> <71d8d053-e298-6c6b-99bd-dbcc3885cd01@NTLWorld.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/O7hpGFt/fVK0nxtb+JP7eGS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="28571"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: supervision@list.skarnet.org Original-X-From: supervision-return-2373-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Tue Dec 24 01:18:13 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from alyss.skarnet.org ([95.142.172.232]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ijXtt-0007Lz-2b for gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Dec 2019 01:18:13 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 29597 invoked by uid 89); 24 Dec 2019 00:18:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Original-Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Original-Received: (qmail 29590 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2019 00:18:37 -0000 In-Reply-To: <71d8d053-e298-6c6b-99bd-dbcc3885cd01@NTLWorld.COM> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:2784 Archived-At: --Sig_/O7hpGFt/fVK0nxtb+JP7eGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 10:15:11 +0000 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Oliver Schad: >=20 > > A booting tools should be in /bin - full stop! > > =20 >=20 > That is historically untrue. The real world has not actually worked > in the way that some people think. Sorry, this is a historical explanation of some things - is this a history course here? That is *not* what you would expect today. Scripts for system initialization (a special case) should find all tools in /bin, because it's in always in the path (always today). To put tools for a lot of scripts somewhere(!) would mean, that all scripts have a method to find these tools or would mean to add more directories to PATH. Because the maintainer of these scripts are completely distributed (it's not one small team, which writes boot/start scripts), it's crazy to do something else than put everything in /bin. If you would say, that this is not true, then we can discuss where we should place cp, mv, ls - maybe in /usr/lib/gnu/? Really? Important scripting tools should always be in /bin or /usr/bin - /bin for boot, /usr/bin for later stages is ok. Best Regards Oli --=20 Automatic-Server AG =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 Oliver Schad Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer Turnerstrasse 2 9000 St. Gallen | Schweiz www.automatic-server.com | oliver.schad@automatic-server.com Tel: +41 71 511 31 11 | Mobile: +41 76 330 03 47 --Sig_/O7hpGFt/fVK0nxtb+JP7eGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAl4BWTsACgkQRilxUUuWlvB/YgCgrPIinxamZs9Bhmx1JVxdL8/K R70AniLn/+dKX4wrxWAdPquZcDri70RB =U1NH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/O7hpGFt/fVK0nxtb+JP7eGS--