From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/2815 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Schad Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: The "Unix Philosophy 2020" document Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 18:41:56 +0100 Organization: Automatic Server AG Message-ID: <20191228184156.5a1a590f@flunder> References: <20190901091157.bjtfhqq6d2rg75yo@caspervector> <20190927083816.tectynx7dzlfcvb7@caspervector> <20191012173743.drzlgnrw4hib6hh4@caspervector> <20191117062644.lt6wfmqwijqqhc5w@caspervector> <20191226175258.o2nsregew6tlqlbu@caspervector> <20191227112309.3fow6vynss2ifw4t@CasperVector> <20191228022440.GA194581@cube> <20191228014608.1dc7f43e@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20191228133735.GA198054@cube> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/kqjtOv=LcLGO9A3jTKv511X"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="242763"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Original-X-From: supervision-return-2404-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Sat Dec 28 18:42:16 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from alyss.skarnet.org ([95.142.172.232]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ilG6R-0010wn-Pf for gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Dec 2019 18:42:15 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 28811 invoked by uid 89); 28 Dec 2019 17:42:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Original-Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Original-Received: (qmail 28804 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2019 17:42:36 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20191228133735.GA198054@cube> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:2815 Archived-At: --Sig_/kqjtOv=LcLGO9A3jTKv511X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 15:37:35 +0200 Alex Suykov wrote: > The reason I think it's mostly useless is because the only use case > for cgroup supervision is supervising double-forking daemons, which > is not a very smart thing to do. A much better approach is to get rid > of double-forking and then just directly supervise the resulting long > running process. > I can't think of any other cases where it would be useful. I definitly have to correct you: cgroups are *NOT* designed to catch wild forking processes. This is just a side-effect ot them. The purpose is to control resource limits, like CPU, RAM, Disk I/O and so on. So for linux it would definitly make sense to have an interface to the full feature set. Best Regards Oli --=20 Automatic-Server AG =E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2=E2=80=A2 Oliver Schad Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer Turnerstrasse 2 9000 St. Gallen | Schweiz www.automatic-server.com | oliver.schad@automatic-server.com Tel: +41 71 511 31 11 | Mobile: +41 76 330 03 47 --Sig_/kqjtOv=LcLGO9A3jTKv511X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAl4Hk+QACgkQRilxUUuWlvDwWwCcDaLhy9+kz3Y3B5H0AFed9Ynh veMAoMMkEnfANjXJb+TUscKHMWIjGajh =WSxd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/kqjtOv=LcLGO9A3jTKv511X--