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From: Oliver Schad <oliver.schad@automatic-server.com>
To: supervision@list.skarnet.org
Subject: Re: The "Unix Philosophy 2020" document
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 19:16:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191228191609.33cdbfde@flunder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADQ2Nw8DyeLWBWhK264_BykkVQbH2ib6S0eNhwpZ9CrgUa_PaA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:19:30 -0300
Guillermo <gdiazhartusch@gmail.com> wrote:

> El vie., 27 dic. 2019 a las 20:56, Oliver Schad escribió:
> >
> > Sorry, I have to correct that a bit: you can use the freezer cgroup
> > as I did, but there is no guarantee, that you can successfully kill
> > a freezed process.  
> 
> You can't? So the 'kill -9' command in your script might not work
> while the cgroup's state is "FROZEN"?

There are corner cases, where frozen processes can't be killed. Systemd
has the race condition implemented.

Maybe you can react on that, unfreeze these processes and kill them
with the race-condition.

> > So you can decide:
> >
> > 1) race-condition
> > 2) unkillallable processes without race-condition  
> 
> AFAIK systemd does not (and will not?) use the freezer cgroup
> controller, so I guess it's 1) in that case :)

Exactly. I've checked the code as well. Read through PID list and kill
them one by one with time windows in between, where $SOMETHING could
happen.

Best Regards
Oli

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-28 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <20190901091157.bjtfhqq6d2rg75yo@CasperVector>
2019-09-27  8:38     ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-10-12 17:37       ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-10-12 18:58         ` Steve Litt
2019-10-12 19:14           ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-10-13  3:31         ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-10-13  8:21         ` Oliver Schad
2019-10-13 13:57           ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-08 17:04             ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-10-14  6:35           ` Jens Rehsack
2019-10-22 15:33         ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-10-22 16:54           ` Steve Litt
2019-10-22 17:07             ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-11-17  6:26         ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-11-17  7:28           ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-11-24 20:13             ` Guillermo
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2019-11-25  2:52               ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-11-25 14:20                 ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-11-30 12:13                   ` Jeff
2019-11-30 12:20                     ` Jeff
2019-11-30 12:45                       ` Jeff
2019-11-30 13:29                         ` Laurent Bercot
2019-11-30 14:43                           ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-11-30 15:01                             ` Jeff
2019-11-30 15:48                               ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-11-30 16:58                                 ` Jeff
2019-12-26 17:52           ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-27  1:09             ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-27 11:11               ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-27  2:57             ` Steve Litt
2019-12-27 13:54               ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-27 15:37                 ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-01-04  9:10                   ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-01-04 18:25                     ` fungal-net
2020-01-05  0:36                       ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-01-05  6:31                       ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-01-05  6:54                         ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-27 23:05                 ` Steve Litt
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2020-01-04 12:32                     ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-27 21:29             ` Steve Litt
2019-12-27 23:34               ` Alex Suykov
2019-12-28 10:35               ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-10-28 15:34       ` Avery Payne
2019-10-28 15:51         ` Casper Ti. Vector
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2019-12-26 19:17             ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-27 11:23               ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-28  2:24                 ` Alex Suykov
2019-12-28  2:57                   ` eric vidal
2019-12-28 14:04                     ` Alex Suykov
2019-12-28 18:05                       ` Guillermo
2019-12-28 23:19                         ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-28 18:12                       ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-28 21:32                       ` eric vidal
2019-12-28  6:46                   ` Steve Litt
2019-12-28 13:37                     ` Alex Suykov
2019-12-28 13:54                       ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-28 17:41                       ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-28 18:29                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2019-12-28 23:16                           ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-28 21:31                         ` eric vidal
2019-12-29 16:07                         ` Alex Suykov
2019-12-29 20:32                           ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-28 10:26                   ` Casper Ti. Vector
     [not found]               ` <20191227112309.3fow6vynss2ifw4t@caspervector>
2019-12-27 12:32                 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-27 13:48                   ` Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-27 23:54                   ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-27 23:56                     ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-28 15:19                       ` Guillermo
2019-12-28 18:16                         ` Oliver Schad [this message]
2019-12-28 20:44                   ` Laurent Bercot

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