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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Brett Neumeier <bneumeier@gmail.com>
Cc: Supervision <supervision@list.skarnet.org>
Subject: Re: Readiness notification exemplars
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:21:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200401142122.GA30742@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGSetNuLfBwTT_-F=HoDAoDYWoW1qHbfeVqD83BvSpJKpkwv=w@mail.gmail.com>

I've been considering for several years trying to push a kernel patch
which would provide a way for userspace to find out when someone starts
listening on some port.  Based on problems I saw long ago in the late
days of upstart and early days of systemd, that seemed like it would
solve a not infrequent problem without having to make any changes to
the daemons.  Upstart tried to solve it by making the daemons send a
sigstop when ready;  systemd solves it by making the daemons support
socket notification;  listen-notifiers could be entirely handled by
the dependency handler in the init system.

It's *still* on my list of todos.  Maybe sufficient ridicule here will
help me knock it off the list :)

On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:23:26AM -0500, Brett Neumeier wrote:
> I read on http://skarnet.org/software/s6/notifywhenup.html:
> 
> "...daemons can simply write a line to a file descriptor of their choice,
> then close that file descriptor, when they're ready to serve. This is a
> generic mechanism that some daemons already implement."
> 
> I am curious, does anyone on this list know of examples of such daemons? I
> am considering creating and submitting patches for some daemon programs
> that I use that do *not* support this mechanism as yet, and am curious if
> it is as simple as it looks like it should be.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Brett
> 
> -- 
> Brett Neumeier (bneumeier@gmail.com)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-01 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-01 13:23 Brett Neumeier
2020-04-01 13:36 ` Casper Ti. Vector
2020-04-01 14:21 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2020-04-01 15:06   ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-01 15:28     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-01 15:59       ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-01 16:26         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-01 17:13           ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-04 15:02             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-04 15:54               ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-03  7:41           ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2020-04-04 15:48             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-04 21:29               ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-04 22:18                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-04-07 23:03                   ` Brett Neumeier
2020-04-08 11:02                     ` Laurent Bercot
2020-04-09 10:31                     ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2020-04-01 14:55 ` Laurent Bercot

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