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From: Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family>
To: Peter Shkenev <petershh@disroot.org>
Cc: supervision@list.skarnet.org
Subject: Re: s6-rc as user service manager
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 16:49:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221017234905.4rrdwvrxs6pchfdx@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8F72C59D-7F58-4084-94B4-CBEF75421327@disroot.org>

On 2022-10-17 23:42, Peter Shkenev wrote:
> ...
> 1) User services are services running as a given user and started at a
> boot time
> This option is a trivial one with s6.
> 
> 2) User services are services defined by users and running supervised
> when the user wants it.
> You can implement this with s6-usertree-maker [1], which would provide
> you with a supervision tree rooted in a system one which can be managed
> by user. User will have its own scandir and they can use all commands
> provided by s6/s6-rc on their scandir.

Thanks Peter, this was actually helpful and enchanced my mental model.
I think I get get away for now with a user's tree rooted in the system
tree. My graphics environment (sway) can start necessary services
when it is started.

> > - Minor: a test utility for svscan dir would be nice
> > - Minor: a test utility for live dir would be nice
> 
> If you use s6-rc, those are the same directories, filled by s6-rc-init
> and changed by s6-rc-update. So the test would actually test those
> utilities, I guess.

By testing I meant checking if the directory has an active process
watching it. I believe there is a function in skalibs  fd_lock [1]
that svscan uses to check if another svscan runs there. I think it is
just a matter of exposing that function as standalone executable.

[1] https://github.com/skarnet/skalibs/blob/master/src/libstddjb/fd_lock.c


Ihor

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-17 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-17 17:50 Ihor Antonov
2022-10-17 20:42 ` Peter Shkenev
2022-10-17 23:49   ` Ihor Antonov [this message]
2022-10-18  0:58     ` Laurent Bercot
2022-10-18  3:12       ` Ihor Antonov

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