From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 377 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2020 12:02:33 -0000 Received: from alyss.skarnet.org (95.142.172.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 Jun 2020 12:02:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13308 invoked by uid 89); 14 Jun 2020 12:02:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Received: (qmail 13297 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2020 12:02:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tunnel53-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RcN20E7ZmL/MlKup6GKJ32W6CEAiVq8NjOSIShUkZCU=; b=WEE2cw6E6yO9HN5M76xYAGlbEYu3+ux8+fstXY/EVLul9/anwm/H9U4tUI7REBMhgE ZCr1kIcLW2pRxMkgiSj2quY+T4MMHvXAJswTvDZAGrBvjaB/JmYR4BI4VHQcZdW6urM+ 0vMDHvCFRITfKIBMJs+3H/AyRglTRXkY5KWkcWB/K67ilxvWCOeEU8EGtKJG7QCgi1Uq hGgH+1wvipijedKaETJfeTOXnbjS4agKOCwwByOGqtRqO19EhijAOCKBTQFAiMfVwsqX Y58As4cBHr+rLkprtG9mI2YXprvL2Y97PXN6gwCvqKRH1B0PBXZTftVxpgxpdSDY+CP9 GI8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RcN20E7ZmL/MlKup6GKJ32W6CEAiVq8NjOSIShUkZCU=; b=NCx3rBlQd4VQlR0okjO5O9XeIZaxdDtNwdwrzdXmVOJKz5jQLJJ+VjmsmcQ0eDnGcG /GNfrqsE0xnwc1RhFo7KWWrasulclvaUDhWwIeoKd+quylBBACd9PyhFF+PW+imZKGg6 LQGGRDyr3YJW7b+p2hkSk8njf7GhrhHFIWTEaiiJ9TMNo7mY7hrgJ9Da4kqquWCgG7yC k/RctJQatPlCTXN8Sw22sPNZVjprJGO1poreaciACponLHDOsx7mYLDwRv6OWsKv0pB4 50jmhyMiENyLMg6sznjnaRf5jQna+Wa7PFfb5/toogDDwOh/1T/jm9UoT7lr/ILLKhmR iAsw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5314J/5zFWQ3yUSkiRGaTnV49Rc0FcHWqXqOpiY7DXY1WnDhv/p0 VlpU024dgl991ICYI1htqTCcO/A+9dMdJAPhhNXMhw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyI3g5izPRBOMYiqS2bqJFQymZGYTHKv1x2yJ2v4aJMKZ78+vOWVl0Z8Ij++LZjesqcABK9h1H8QhJSPLXOKHI= X-Received: by 2002:a62:6d85:: with SMTP id i127mr19062054pfc.270.1592136143390; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 05:02:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200613105942.GA21613@klumpi.ignorelist.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Carl_Winb=C3=A4ck?= Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 14:02:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Logging in a web server context To: Laurent Bercot Cc: supervision@list.skarnet.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you Laurent, for taking your time to express your views regarding this class of daemons. On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 14:43, Laurent Bercot wrote: > The nginx/apache case is something that comes up with some > regularity, either on this list or on the #s6 channel, so I should > try and write some tools that make it easier to automate. Cool. Such tools could be very useful. > However, it is likely that those tools would become part of s6-rc, > not s6, because doing things in a reliable way involves a fdholder, > which requires some policy that s6 does not provide but s6-rc does > (and s6-rc already has all the necessary infrastructure). Makes sense. AFAICT any heavy user of s6 would anyway need s6-rc or an equivalent.