From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/2375 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "John O'Meara" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.skaware,gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: [announce] execline-2.5.0.0 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 12:07:56 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113962d8584a740568dc7157" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1522670768 12978 195.159.176.226 (2 Apr 2018 12:06:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 12:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "skaware-cfaJnhaL+FNC7f45DRzWBg@public.gmane.org" , "supervision-cfaJnhaL+FNC7f45DRzWBg@public.gmane.org" To: Laurent Bercot Original-X-From: skaware-return-1161-gcss-skaware=m.gmane.org-cfaJnhaL+FNC7f45DRzWBg@public.gmane.org Mon Apr 02 14:06:04 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcss-skaware@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from alyss.skarnet.org ([95.142.172.232]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f2yDo-0003CF-Rg for gcss-skaware@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:06:00 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 14252 invoked by uid 89); 2 Apr 2018 12:08:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact skaware-help-cfaJnhaL+FNC7f45DRzWBg@public.gmane.org; run by ezmlm Original-Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 14237 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2018 12:08:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=zNTZFnD2Nmmiodu4pPvZi2Qr/+OdZx7IHur+dfmjZak=; b=jq4BcWDLg+reZjhvxDkX8KEws2yMHPuDDkmyvKlyYlq5EFkv3esxhoN4WqGOIImCL8 lzvtqgLToCf6qf/QnEKcMoNwlDAWsKdcZ1n1yC4uUnhXYZH2ohXJX4YIqUjuDwvOzBdv 8iEGw3Jbg54oVKXaCZW3gKSWYK584h2+X1OOmutpU0cekKUYt4lJoMZgcqBBsDLRaW0p XIFioYO/AV2wZzkQUZ9jqM8iPwHE4xg+/58Kq8T3Be8Yx0+e5ny5RJ0LZiGnYT3opzJF zXRTx9it1YNEJhgbmbKBD2GOlmjMDGs6KGwhg0lAWQxZzGo3T0SAovwE4iSKlzJpM14A 0zGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zNTZFnD2Nmmiodu4pPvZi2Qr/+OdZx7IHur+dfmjZak=; b=S1bNYzD7S8nfr0m2sguFb+ZzIDrF4BhhC19mSzp931a2LizzOwO4ImaPo2HMNAjAOO mMgZXj5AudF2KU0aW+NAFGXa2XbTCA2yJgbsLgliIevoKXvc1ucT7sFq9eGvDJniSeCq HCap1oJhLar2WM0CU7ePnVoTAWXpucjyx30f0XUEl8bHu9vpn0uUe1iVuJO/gm0JjCvY C3SjpJ1yQra4hQqGsO/xGaFf6VvHHvi4KgmTgLRuLsBYWuQlB+xQ0Sfh7nKxM3triK4R q3wssswuge2TD9r7t9L8sJ9QcST0bIGE+/iU10wg5ygwEUTLYhLTjTE8r7OvvVOu+A4r g9gw== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7H5x0QlnlYZJvvxMK2EH3jncRYLakiaddyG1gNqPLTNvgZO7BQd Vy1rgkq2zxvbwo1rGovr5eZFurCGBOskHIx9jS8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx49uFzkCiYvDX0FMVy4mAYnE2PRIAdrv1p78jR+V8xCeEMRpj21i+EYe3NyP1Df0D+bcqtuKn6wM4YBszZZcF6k= X-Received: by 10.107.1.213 with SMTP id 204mr8376293iob.113.1522670887256; Mon, 02 Apr 2018 05:08:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.skaware:229 gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:2375 Archived-At: --001a113962d8584a740568dc7157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 8:06 AM John O'Meara wrote: > While I initially didn't like the 2.4 name changes, perhaps I (and others) > just need tinge to get used too it. that should have been "time", not "tinge". The perils of writing email on a phone :-( Perhaps it would be useful to have a period of time where the old names are > used for the programs and the new names are symlinks to the old names? > Existing scripts would still work while we experiment with the new naming > convention. > > -- > John O'Meara > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 6:39 AM Laurent Bercot > wrote: > >> >> Hello, >> execline-2.5.0.0 is out. >> >> It is with a very heavy heart that I must do this release. >> User reports have come in by the hundreds and they are almost >> unanimous (sorry, Colin): they don't like the 2.4.0.0 change, >> pretending it hurts readability (as if), and writability too, >> of execline scripts. (What? People were actually writing execline >> scripts? Why haven't I heard of them before yesterday?) >> They want a revert to the old syntax. >> >> Users. They never know what they want. They can't be happy. Give them >> what they ask for and they immediately start complaining about the >> opposite of what they were complaining before. They're a plague on >> software authors everywhere. I swear, computer programming would be >> so much easier if there were no users at all! >> >> But since programming is about being a slave to your users, I hear >> them, and I submit. I'm reverting the change introduced in 2.4.0.0. >> execline commands will keep the names they had in 2.3.0.4 and previous >> versions. >> >> I'm such a misunderstood genius. >> >> The main difference between 2.3.0.4 and 2.5.0.0, though, is that >> the "import" command has been removed. From 2.5.0.0 on, execline and >> ImageMagick should not conflict anymore. Make sure your execline >> scripts have been converted to using "importas"! >> >> https://skarnet.org/software/execline/ >> git://git.skarnet.org/execline >> >> Enjoy, >> Bug-reports welcome. >> >> -- >> Laurent >> >> --001a113962d8584a740568dc7157--