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From: Charlie Brady <charlieb-smarden-supervision@budge.apana.org.au>
Cc: supervision@list.skarnet.org
Subject: Re: Who actually gets the TERM signal in "runsvctrl down"?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:11:40 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0406251205560.11857-100000@e-smith.charlieb.ott.istop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m38yebiq0u.fsf@asfast.com>


On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Lloyd Zusman wrote:

> Charlie Brady <charlieb-smarden-supervision@budge.apana.org.au> writes:
> 
> >> [ ... ]
> >
> > The better way is runit/daemontools. runsvctrl is just a shell script 
> > which tries to do what runsv is already able to do reliably. It delivers a 
> > signal to the session leading httpd process, which it has hopefully found 
> > by way of a pid file. That process then "does the right thing" with its 
> > children.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I'm already using runit, which I mentioned in my original message (that
> paragraph is quoted above).  I understand how runsvctl works in relation
> to runit.
> 
> I'm trying to figure out how to set up the "run" script in the apache
> service directory so that the "down" and "up" parameters to "runsvctrl"
> do the right things.
> 
> By "right things" I mean (for apache):
> 
>   runsvctrl up apache      =>    invoke "apachectl start"
>   runsvctrl down apache    =>    invoke "apachectl stop"

Why do you say they are the "right things"? Please re-read my previous 
message. runsv can already do what "apachectl" does, but more reliably, 
and using less resources. Why do you insist on using apachectl?

> I don't want to send a TERM signal to httpd in order to stop it, because
> I want it to shut down using the same logic that "apachectl stop" uses,
> which is definitely not to simply send a TERM signal to the httpd
> daemon.

No, that's just what "apachectl stop" does.

> To illustrate, here's an untested, quick and dirty version of the "run"
> script in the apache service directory which might do what I want:
> 
>   #!/bin/sh
> 
>   exec 2>&1
> 
>   shutdown () {
>     apachectl stop
>     exit 0
>   }
> 
>   trap "shutdown" 15
> 
>   apachectl start

Why do you want this extra shell process between runsv and apache, and why 
do you want to run apachectl?

> I'm just not sure if this is the best way to accomplish what I want
> to do.

See below:

> > For "apachectl stop", just do "runsvctrl down apache". For "apachectl 
> > graceful", do "runsvctrl 1 apache; raunsvctrl u apache". For "apachectrl 
> > restart", do "runsvctrl t apache; raunsvctrl u apache". Etc.

You now just need a run script which does:

#! /bin/sh
exec httpd ......

with the correct args.

---
Charlie



  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-25 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-25 14:01 Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-25 15:33 ` Charlie Brady
2004-06-25 16:03   ` Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-25 16:11     ` Charlie Brady [this message]
2004-06-25 16:36       ` Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-25 17:15         ` Paul Jarc
2004-06-26  0:26           ` Scott Gifford
2004-06-26  1:39           ` Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-26  2:17             ` Charlie Brady
2004-06-26  2:44               ` Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-26  3:01                 ` Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-26  4:03                   ` Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-26  8:17                     ` Thomas Schwinge
2004-06-26 15:45                     ` Charlie Brady
2004-06-25 18:27         ` Charlie Brady
2004-06-25 19:13           ` Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-25 19:48             ` Charlie Brady
2004-06-26  3:49             ` Paul Jarc
2004-06-26 21:10               ` Lloyd Zusman
2004-06-25 18:40     ` Jim Zajkowski
2004-06-25 16:13   ` Dean Hall
2004-06-25 16:17     ` Charlie Brady

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