From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/510 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Charlie Brady Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: svlogd localtime option Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 09:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <20040704054801.5939.qmail@f950a45d36ced0.315fe32.mid.smarden.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1089035477 19393 80.91.224.253 (5 Jul 2004 13:51:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: supervision@list.skarnet.org Original-X-From: supervision-return-748-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Mon Jul 05 15:51:05 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from antah.skarnet.org ([212.85.147.14]) by deer.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BhTs9-0007n6-00 for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 15:51:05 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 14145 invoked by uid 76); 5 Jul 2004 13:51:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: Original-Received: (qmail 14139 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2004 13:51:23 -0000 X-X-Sender: charlieb@e-smith.charlieb.ott.istop.com Original-To: Gerrit Pape In-Reply-To: <20040704054801.5939.qmail@f950a45d36ced0.315fe32.mid.smarden.org> Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:510 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:510 On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, Gerrit Pape wrote: > On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 12:53:15PM -0700, Jared Rhine wrote: > > > > I appreciate that UTC-based servers are useful in a global setting, > > but it's a hindrance to good systems administration in many contexts. > > And there's always the internal politics, where coworkers complain. > > Using TAI or UTC has the great advantage that logs are sortable after > merging, this is not guaranteed when using localtime. And the reason they aren't sortable is that times can be ambiguous in local time - one hour occurs twice each year (in many places). Ambiguous times in log files are not such a good idea. > There have been feature requests for a tai64nlocal alike program. Has anyone knocked one of these together? --- Charlie