From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/1655 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Charlie Brady Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: RE: runit not collecting zombies Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:13:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: References: <46561ABE.7030008@podgorny.cz> <50F2BE60A0EF6D478B1BCC633DEC28CC082BEE@server.home.internal> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203966849 29525 80.91.229.12 (25 Feb 2008 19:14:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alex Efros , supervision@list.skarnet.org To: rehan khan Original-X-From: supervision-return-1890-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Mon Feb 25 20:14:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcsg-supervision@gmane.org Original-Received: from antah.skarnet.org ([212.85.147.14]) by lo.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JTilg-00082U-MQ for gcsg-supervision@gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:13:40 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 23447 invoked by uid 76); 25 Feb 2008 19:13:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: Original-Received: (qmail 23438 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2008 19:13:28 -0000 X-X-Sender: charlieb@e-smith.charlieb.ott.istop.com In-Reply-To: <50F2BE60A0EF6D478B1BCC633DEC28CC082BEE@server.home.internal> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:1655 Archived-At: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, rehan khan wrote: > I don't think the kernel is implicated if you haven't restarted the > machine. Well *I* don't think that runit-init is implicated, since it hasn't been restarted. So where does that leave us? My understanding is that there are only two items of software involved in the reaping of zombies - the kernel, and process 1 (i.e. runit-init). Given their relative complexities, I'd say that a bug in the kernel is more likely than a bug in runit-init. Gerrit has looked for a bug in runit-init and not found one. Other people run the same runit-init as Alex, but a different kernel, and don't see the problem. That also makes me suspect a kernel problem. If you were to supply me with a malicious bash, how would it be able to create zombies which my runit-init did not reap? IOW, I don't see how bash could be implicated.