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From: "Casper Ti. Vector" <>
Subject: Some suggestions on old-fashioned usage with s6 2.10.x
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:08:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YBKNJEuGeYag91Q1@CasperVector> (raw)

I did not actively follow the recent evolution of s6, and have just been
bitten badly by s6 2.10.x on my Alpine servers (where slew [1] is used
of course) when it comes along with other updates.

[1] <>

First, kernel panic on booting.  With some tentative echo(1) invocations
(with I/O redirections to /dev/console when necessary) and messing with
console resolution (so I could see the outputs before the panic), I
found the problem occurred with `s6-svscan' exiting because of the
legacy `-s' option in [2].  The fix itself is trivial, but it would be
better if we kept the option supported for a transition period, and that
only removed it from the manual pages while urging users to get rid of
it.  After all, in this case, silently ignoring `-s' is behaviourly
similar to (if not perfectly compatible with) old `s6-svscan'.

[2] <

Second, `s6-svscan' now waits for its `s6-supervise' children to exit
before exec()ing `.s6-svscan/finish', so it hangs forever (save for
magic SysRq) due to the catch-all logger on halting.  I do know that the
recommended way to shut down is to use `s6-linux-init-shutdown', but
it will be nice if the old-fashioned way (with stage 1 and stage 3 as
static scripts) is supported as well after minimal modifications to both
s6 and (for instance) slew.  I also understand that `s6-svc -X' has been
removed, and that the invocation in [3] would no longer work anyway
because [3] is exec()ed by `s6-svscan'.  However, I think the following
way is practical yet minimal: introduce an option (perhaps still `-X')
of `s6-svc', but that tells `s6-supervise' to exit normally *upon
receiving SIGTERM or SIGHUP* (this is where the behaviour differs from
the old `s6-svc -X') without waiting for the children to exit; then move
the `s6-svc -X' invocation from `rc.halt' into `rc.fin' (where `s6-rc -d
change all' is also spawn).

[3] <

Any suggestions?

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             reply	other threads:[~2021-01-28 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-28 10:08 Casper Ti. Vector [this message]
2021-01-28 11:09 ` Casper Ti. Vector
2021-01-28 14:05   ` Casper Ti. Vector
2021-01-29  1:41 ` Guillermo
2021-01-29  3:06   ` Casper Ti. Vector
2021-01-29 17:27     ` Guillermo
2021-01-29 17:39       ` Guillermo
     [not found]   ` <YBN7zfp/MmbcHOCF@caspervector>
2021-01-29  9:57     ` Laurent Bercot
2021-01-29 14:33       ` Casper Ti. Vector
     [not found]       ` <YBQcwHN1L/N2dedx@caspervector>
2021-01-29 15:48         ` Laurent Bercot
2021-01-31  7:49           ` stage2 as a service [was: Some suggestions on old-fashioned usage with s6 2.10.x] s.karrmann
2021-01-31 10:25             ` Laurent Bercot
2021-01-31 20:51               ` stage2 as a service Stefan Karrmann
2021-02-01 10:35                 ` Laurent Bercot
2021-02-15  8:36           ` Some suggestions on old-fashioned usage with s6 2.10.x Casper Ti. Vector
     [not found]           ` <YCoykUYGXVt+BAT9@caspervector>
     [not found]             ` <em949fd937-c7bc-43db-9b49-3cc235b8f2ad@elzian>
2021-02-16  8:53               ` Casper Ti. Vector
     [not found] <YBKNJEuGeYag91Q1@caspervector>
2021-01-28 17:21 ` Laurent Bercot
2021-01-28 19:08   ` Roy Lanek
2021-01-28 19:55   ` Casper Ti. Vector
     [not found]   ` <YBMWuUCUTVjUNinQ@caspervector>
2021-01-29  0:07     ` Laurent Bercot
2021-01-29  2:44       ` Casper Ti. Vector
     [not found]       ` <YBN2p2UkIiP8lMQy@caspervector>
2021-01-29  9:36         ` Laurent Bercot
2021-02-15 14:58 Laurent Bercot
2021-02-15 14:59 ` Laurent Bercot

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