From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1953 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2022 11:37:02 -0000 Received: from alyss.skarnet.org (95.142.172.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Apr 2022 11:37:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 17634 invoked by uid 89); 9 Apr 2022 11:37:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Received: (qmail 17627 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2022 11:37:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=allmail.net; h= cc:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm3; bh=ePXIfSvRsniVTVk1EISI17fUToBSE2bIPGJtc0 KSdMA=; b=Znjt6afLcf7KXWvy4cUAqJeltiq7GRPU9ATHJ0r4mytd/mJ6nIdLGf wpXIbbv03Qmhau3DU8sruYZjnjgFACJ5mlQPn80vIF0cmVmMOBtTlfXHAZtBlmZ1 CBuTazVlxkQ/a1KAn0c8ow15aL+eW9TBQOZkZBnq8a56gJFte80gsOhnTyzQhVfi AWKoDknJ0u9xUrVLv3LRbc9E3J6Mz7tZCjLxlJyMRFmBuEFueoOmfOtuzHIPga44 1qt1Y/tRNMadUtvXCdm+f3lwz2W0x7DatoOWp6y/7qQiIjWsgDhVgUh4hS0vi0xk r9ZZBujx54zj1YDXAMwaE+SKrFXm9oQw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=ePXIfSvRsniVTVk1E ISI17fUToBSE2bIPGJtc0KSdMA=; b=cKkisLXEO6wDwDQYwEl6jKlO73sVRd5fC tI9iwUajOxX42jVjoWzI828tKgjqhnHMUF/jv3HePY7mkJbpmp3NdubPzEG4n7pt Dt1yYwf+69OPuyfXtXcx4prFytQ1Lc7m5tcYX1CaGj1JEI8yutp4WNo1qnxsA7Yh 7f6GjzQtXwAA6jWRXnMtCK7dhWLzX1khlKQFmX6VNdiSAGoekaQwg6FCOKfNSKXC /EdiCkIrcmJCTkXLALFODh1+Di1IVgMoq513ZFEIT++rU7SGe9kdQwhomXCIiBn7 H2ERBpH/d0/b0KLiweo3xZoIa2WL2f8Nh/p2T5SpPkWqg4WFvcWTQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddrudekvddgudejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesthdtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdftrghm rghrrhhoucforghrrhhonhgvfdcuoehrmhesrghllhhmrghilhdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrf grthhtvghrnheptedttdefgfegleetteeuuddujeeugeduieehuefhkefgieeihfevfeei ueevgedtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomh eprhhmsegrlhhlmhgrihhlrdhnvght X-ME-Proxy: X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-386-g4174665229-fm-20220406.001-g41746652 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0c1d24f1-fa0e-4c00-a94f-3173110b3800@www.fastmail.com> References: <0c1d24f1-fa0e-4c00-a94f-3173110b3800@www.fastmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2022 11:36:35 +0000 From: "Ramarro Marrone" To: "Scott Colby" , "Alex Efros via supervision" Subject: Re: Supervision on the BSD's Content-Type: text/plain I too had been surprised by the lack of supervision in OpenBSD. On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, at 05:38, Scott Colby wrote: > As far as I > can tell, OpenBSD's rc assumes that services will background > themselves and does no supervision at all. > ... > Have I correctly understood how daemons/services work on the BSD's? About OpenBSD, almost: You can set rc_bg if the daemon doesn't background itself. See rc.subr(8). > If not, what am I missing? /etc/daily runs "rcctl ls failed", so you get an email of the failed daemons. This is not supervision, but it is close enough for me. Maybe I prefer it actually. > Are the daemons included with the > distributions so incredibly stable that they don't need supervision > in order to keep the system functional? Yes