From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/2451 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Laurent Bercot" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: Can s6 be enough?: was s6-ps Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 09:19:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: <9f647c4c-2dc3-b977-928c-ee164ba88afe@ntlworld.com> <20190105153028.28bc0bab@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20190107164506.0d925cd9@mydesk.domain.cxm> Reply-To: "Laurent Bercot" NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546939051 30401 195.159.176.226 (8 Jan 2019 09:17:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 09:17:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: eM_Client/7.2.33939.0 To: "Steve Litt" , supervision@list.skarnet.org Original-X-From: supervision-return-2041-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Tue Jan 08 10:17:27 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from alyss.skarnet.org ([95.142.172.232]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ggnVm-0007nk-VR for gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2019 10:17:27 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 3772 invoked by uid 89); 8 Jan 2019 09:20:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Original-Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 3765 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2019 09:20:03 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20190107164506.0d925cd9@mydesk.domain.cxm> X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledrvdelucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecupfgfoffgtffkveetuefngfdpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufffkfgjfhhrfgggtgfgsehtqhertddtreejnecuhfhrohhmpedfnfgruhhrvghnthcuuegvrhgtohhtfdcuoehskhgrqdhsuhhpvghrvhhishhiohhnsehskhgrrhhnvghtrdhorhhgqeenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuthenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:2451 Archived-At: >When Debian acquires a properly working s6-rc package, the answer to my >question degenerates to "why not?" But for now, for the Debian person >who only installs via package, s6-rc is out of the question, so my >question was, isn't s6 itself good enough? Then maybe you should ask Debian instead, "why aren't you packaging s6-rc?" It's literally a distribution's *job* to package software that may be useful to users. And instead, you are bending your mind to try and find justifications for users not to use some software, for the simple reason that it's not packaged by a distribution. That logic is 100% backwards. You want to help users? Package s6-rc for Debian. Also, call out Debian on their prejudice and disingenuous use of policies that prevent people from making correct execline and s6 packages. -- Laurent