From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general/2488 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Laurent Bercot" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general Subject: Re: Is s6/s6-rc ready to be the ubiquitous init? Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 09:31:29 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20190111012453.22f63228@mydesk.domain.cxm> <20190201221348.2bd5107e@mydesk.domain.cxm> Reply-To: "Laurent Bercot" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------=_MBC3C19C6E-8393-4406-BFF8-8FBA79EE4156" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="80084"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: eM_Client/7.2.33939.0 To: Supervision Original-X-From: supervision-return-2078-gcsg-supervision=m.gmane.org@list.skarnet.org Sat Feb 02 10:31:32 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from alyss.skarnet.org ([95.142.172.232]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gpre7-000KiA-1T for gcsg-supervision@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2019 10:31:31 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 26001 invoked by uid 89); 2 Feb 2019 09:31:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Original-Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 25994 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2019 09:31:56 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20190201221348.2bd5107e@mydesk.domain.cxm> X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledrkedtgddtfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfpfgfogfftkfevteeunffgpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfgjfhhrfgggtgesrgdtreertderjeenucfhrhhomhepfdfnrghurhgvnhhtuceuvghrtghothdfuceoshhkrgdqshhuphgvrhhvihhsihhonhesshhkrghrnhgvthdrohhrgheqnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.sysutils.supervision.general:2488 Archived-At: --------=_MBC3C19C6E-8393-4406-BFF8-8FBA79EE4156 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >1) Where can I find the s6/s6-rc project's preferred directories for > everything? If there is *one thing* you should know about s6, and that you should convey to your readers, it is that *it does not provide, or care about, policy*. I thought it would be abundantly clear by now. That means there are *no* preferred directories. People can do whatever they want. Yeah, this is a hard concept to grasp in the era of systemd, but the Overton window needs a big fat shift towards flexibility and user choice. Of course, there are smarter choices than others. I have expressed and explained my own preferences several times, both in parts of the s6 and s6-rc documentation, and on this mailing-list when the subject came up. You can find them in the archives. But these are my preferences and recommendations, not official policies. Official policies should be done in the context of a _distribution_. > I'd prefer not to put anything directly off the root > directory: Too many people would object. Boy, if your audience is going to clutch their pearls at the mention of adding something to the root directory, just wait until they hear about how to write init scripts. :P Again, directories can be put *wherever*, and you don't have to create anything in the root directory. But approaching this with the angle of "I won't say anything radical to avoid scaring my audience" is the wrong mindset. You will never convince people who are far enough gone to believe that nothing should ever be created in the root directory despite having accepted /media without questioning because it came from a Standard=E2=84=A2. >2) Does there exist a block diagram of either s6, s6-rc, or both > combined, and if so, where? Well, dear, that's one of the things that are missing and that you're going to provide, isn't it? -- Laurent --------=_MBC3C19C6E-8393-4406-BFF8-8FBA79EE4156--