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From: "Laurent Bercot" <>
To: "Dewayne Geraghty" <>,
	"" <>
Subject: Re: s6-rc : Anomalies or normal behaviour
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2020 02:14:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <em7ac79949-ed7c-4913-8318-9dd0afc38f59@elzian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

>1. I expected to see the date in seconds since time epoch, but result is
>variable name
># execlineb -Pc 'backtick D { date "+%s" } echo $D'

  Normal behaviour, since there's no shell to interpret $D as the
contents of variable D. Try using "importas D D" before the echo:
it will read the value of D and substitute $D with this value, so
echo will print the value. Yeah, execline is annoying like that, it's
just a habit to take.
  Also, you generally want "backtick -n", to chomp the newline at
the end of your input.

>2. When I use emptyenv within an execlineb script, I have a "defunct"
>zombie process
>89685  3  S<       0:00.01   |-- s6-supervise base:time-srv
>  3020  -  S<s      0:00.03   | `-- /usr/local/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf
>-N -g -u ntpd --nofork
>  3601  -  Z<       0:00.00   |   `-- <defunct>
>The time server script is
>#!/usr/local/bin/execlineb -P
>multidefine -d " " "base time ntpd /usr/local/sbin/ntpd" { JAIL SERVICE
>background { echo Starting service $SERVICE using $PROGRAM on $JAIL
>under user $USER }
>fdmove 2 1
>redirfd -w 1 /m/base:time/fifo
>$PROGRAM -c /etc/ntp.conf -N -g -u $USER --nofork
>removing emptyenv, prevents the zombie from being created.  Is this normal?

  The zombie is the echo program in your background block, since it's a
direct child of your run script and there's nothing that reaps it
after it's forked (fdmove, redirfd, ntpd - those programs don't expect
to inherit a child). So the zombie is expected. To prevent that, use
"background -d", which will doublefork your echo program, so it will
be reparented to pid 1 which will reap it properly.

  The anomaly is that you *don't* have that zombie without emptyenv;
my first guess is that there's something in your environment that 
the behaviour of ntpd and makes it reap the zombie somehow.

>3. Is it normal/standard/good practice to include a dependency in a
>bundle.  For example, I have a "time" bundle whose contents are
>time-srv.  time-srv starts the ntpd service, and has as a dependency
>Using "s6-rc -u change time", everything behaves as documented, ie
>starts "time" which starts time-log, then time-srv.  However
># s6-rc -v 9 -d change base:time
>s6-rc: info: bringing selected services down
>s6-rc: info: processing service base:time-srv: stopping
>s6-rc: info: service base:time-srv stopped successfully
># Starting logging service time for base with user s6log folder
>and the time-log continues running.

  If you only have time-srv in your 'time' bundle, then time-srv and
time are equivalent. Telling s6-rc to bring down time will do the
exact same thing as telling it to bring down time-srv. time-log is
not impacted. So the behaviour is expected.

  If you want "s6-rc -d change time" to also bring down time-log, then
yes, you should add time-log to the time bundle. Then 'time' will
address both time-srv and time-log.

>y 6 seconds  # This is time-srv
>up (pid 85131) 6 seconds                      # This is time-log,so it
>has been restarted

  If you're using a manually created named pipe to transmit data
from time-srv to time-log, that pipe will close when time-srv exits,
and your logger will get EOF and probably exit, which is why it
stopped; but time-log's supervisor has received no instruction that
it should stop, so it will restart it. This is also expected.

  The simplest way of achieving the behaviour you want is s6-rc's
integrated pipeline feature. Get rid of your named pipe and of your
stdout (for time-srv) and stdin (for time-log) redirections; get rid
of your time bundle definition. Then declare time-log as a consumer
for time-srv and time-srv as a producer for time-log. In the
time-log source definition directory, write 'time' into the
pipeline-name file. Then recompile your database.

  This will automatically create a pipe between time-srv and time-log;
the pipe will be held open so it won't close even if one of the
processes exits; and it will automatically create a 'time' bundle
that contains both time-srv and time-log.

  You're on the right track. :)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-04  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-03 22:30 Dewayne Geraghty
2020-10-04  1:58 ` Dewayne Geraghty
2020-10-04  2:20   ` Laurent Bercot
2020-10-04  2:14 ` Laurent Bercot [this message]
2020-10-06  3:57   ` Dewayne Geraghty
2020-10-06 10:29     ` Laurent Bercot

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