From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 16697 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2022 09:29:16 -0000 Received: from alyss.skarnet.org (95.142.172.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Aug 2022 09:29:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18690 invoked by uid 89); 4 Aug 2022 09:29:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact supervision-help@list.skarnet.org; run by ezmlm Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Received: (qmail 18683 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2022 09:29:41 -0000 From: "Laurent Bercot" To: supervision@list.skarnet.org Subject: Re: [DNG] Be prepared for the fall of systemd Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2022 09:29:14 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4234078aeca178d4b1b5136a9463617d97cef66b.camel@troubleshooters.com> <75OjPiNdg7k-TrGOB10JwBnln7qJjJRtcsOdg1Dm_gk72TwWJ2Te1njPOEgXz-khoRDvkvqjOfB2kUNj5_iAXtoHivgeGVZwoUzvQod4vIo=@so.dang.cool> Reply-To: "Laurent Bercot" User-Agent: eM_Client/9.0.1708.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >I find it symptomatic of the fact that a guy wrote some Rube Goldberg code = and a >corporation decided it would be a great idea to spend millions getting the = Rube >Goldberg code into many major distros. As far as us running our of road wi= th the >Unix API, systemd solves no problem and offers no improvement that couldn'= t have >been solved or improved in a dozen different ways, almost all of which wou= ld have >been more modular and less prone to vendor lock in. We know all of this. Please keep these posts out of the supervision ML. It's not that we don't like systemd-bashing, it's that it takes a lot of space and makes a lot of noise, and I'd like the supervision ML to be laser-focused on solving technical issues with supervision systems, not be yet another place where we complain about systemd day in day out. Thanks. -- Laurent