From: "Laurent Bercot" <ska-supervision@skarnet.org>
To: "supervision@list.skarnet.org" <supervision@list.skarnet.org>
Subject: Re: s6 usability
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 21:02:31 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <emfaf827bd-4fa2-431b-b0e5-72991b739771@elzian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <337de051-b2b4-4f69-78e7-3f737f40384f@sholland.org>
>From a Linux distribution perspective, there's also the question of if s6 can be
>made a drop-in replacement for daemontools, since it does follow djb's naming
>scheme. In gentoo, there are various packages that depend on
>virtual/daemontools; for example, the nullmailer test suite uses ipcserver. From
>a quick comparison of the documentation, it looks like s6 only adds options, and
>remains compatible with the daemontools options.
Yes, and that was on purpose, but it's only true with the "official" API
and not with the internals. For instance, the supervise/status file
isn't compatible.
>So would it be valid/acceptable for a distribution to create unprefixed symlinks
>to the s6-* binaries? It looks like this would mostly only work for the subset
>of the binaries that implement daemontools functionality; some others
>(s6-setsid, s6-sudo) would have naming conflicts if they were not prefixed.
s6-setsid can be symlinked as pgrphack: same functionality, different
name. The same way that s6-log can be symlinked as multilog.
>Then, with the symlinks, s6 could "provide" virtual/daemontools. Maybe this
>would also help discoverability (the issue at hand). Maybe the inconsistency
>would cause more harm than good, and the symlinks should be "for compatibility
>only".
s6 can provide at least surface compatibility with daemontools, yes.
With
the symlinks, it can still be a drop-in replacement (unless there are
interface changes I haven't thought about).
daemontools replacement is easy. The real subject is compatibility with
runit, which is possible but not quite drop-in.
--
Laurent
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-04 21:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-25 21:43 runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7 J. Lewis Muir
2019-11-27 20:33 ` J. Lewis Muir
2019-11-28 7:59 ` Ben Franksen
[not found] ` <ecdf4d8f-93f6-3f9f-b84c-351fa91c7f02@uni-bremen.de>
2019-11-28 19:04 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-11-28 20:39 ` Steve Litt
2019-11-28 22:17 ` runit or s6 (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7) Laurent Bercot
2019-11-29 14:09 ` runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7 Jan Braun
2019-11-29 21:46 ` Dewayne Geraghty
2019-11-30 1:22 ` Colin Booth
2019-11-30 0:21 ` Colin Booth
2019-11-30 3:14 ` Steve Litt
2019-11-30 13:32 ` Jeff
2019-11-30 13:46 ` Jeff
2019-11-30 10:15 ` s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7) Laurent Bercot
2019-11-30 14:32 ` Jeff
2019-11-30 18:58 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-02 12:07 ` Jeff
2019-12-02 22:20 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-02 2:47 ` Steve Litt
2019-12-02 3:37 ` s6 usability Dewayne Geraghty
2019-12-02 10:24 ` fungal-net
2019-12-02 21:32 ` s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7) Laurent Bercot
2019-12-02 23:17 ` s6 usability Samuel Holland
2019-12-03 22:10 ` Steve Litt
2019-12-21 11:49 ` Jan Braun
2019-12-04 12:15 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2019-12-04 21:02 ` Laurent Bercot [this message]
2019-12-04 1:30 ` s6 usability (was: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7) Casper Ti. Vector
2019-12-21 9:26 ` s6 usability Jan Braun
2019-12-21 18:36 ` Guillermo
2019-12-21 21:19 ` Colin Booth
2019-12-22 1:05 ` Jan Braun
2019-12-22 8:30 ` Colin Booth
2019-12-21 23:46 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-22 5:53 ` Jan Braun
2019-12-22 20:33 ` Steve Litt
2019-12-22 23:20 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-23 1:28 ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-23 9:14 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-23 10:15 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2019-12-24 0:18 ` Oliver Schad
2019-12-23 1:57 ` Steve Litt
2019-12-23 9:00 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-22 23:47 ` Dewayne Geraghty
2019-12-04 11:36 ` runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2019-12-04 16:40 ` J. Lewis Muir
2019-12-04 20:48 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-04 21:32 ` J. Lewis Muir
2019-12-04 21:06 ` Steve Litt
2019-12-04 21:50 ` Laurent Bercot
[not found] ` <20191205132736.7f501460@puter>
2019-12-08 19:10 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-02 17:57 ` J. Lewis Muir
2019-12-02 21:06 ` J. Lewis Muir
2019-12-02 22:22 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-02 21:58 ` Laurent Bercot
2019-12-03 10:57 ` Benjamin Franksen
2019-12-04 10:43 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
2019-12-02 17:13 ` J. Lewis Muir
2019-12-04 11:13 ` Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
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