From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net (Gregg C Levine) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:17:33 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] This is too weird In-Reply-To: <200306112352.18254.wes.parish@paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <000101c3303d$594f1880$239efea9@who5> Hello from Gregg C Levine Wes, I remember " Cromix from Cromemco", the company made Single Board Computers, I think they started making replacement hardware for the Imsai family. I didn't know that they had cloned, or something like that, for example UNIX, under its name. Heck, I even came within some order of magnitude of buying a setup from them, then. Funny, funny, the first Get Away Special, wore one of those, the school who built the thing, used a kludge from RS to program it. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -----Original Message----- > From: tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org] On > Behalf Of Wesley Parish > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:52 AM > To: tuhs at tuhs.org > Subject: Re: [TUHS] This is too weird > > And Coherent! > > No, SCO has lost it, and lost all chance of ever regaining the trust of anyone > with the barest skerrick of knowledge of Unix history. > > I checked out an interesting web site: > http://www.robotwisdom.com/linux/nonnix.html > I had no idea that cloning Unix had gotten off to such an early start - Idris > from Plauger et al., Cromix from Cromemco, Yourdon's Omnix, Oasis, etc. > > SCO hasn't got a leg to stand on - on the other hand, are those toenails I see > stuck in its teeth? > > Wesley Parish > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:02, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > --- Warren Toomey wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:49:05AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > > > It just keeps getting weirder: > > > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html > > > > > > Well, if SCO is claiming intellecutal property rights to Linux, why > > > are they intimating that they will sue Linus? > > > > > > This is becoming an alternate reality. > > > > > > Warren > > > > When we find out that there's SCO code in Cygwin call me. ;) > > > > The chart is a good way to confuse things. The poor guy that made the > > original must be crying that he let SCO use it years ago. > > > > The part that confuses me is that I remember there were dotted lines one on > > the original UNIX history chart that showed non-source-code-copying > > influences and now even the real UNIX history chart is using only solid > > lines. It makes MINIX look like it has 7th Ed code in it instead of just > > being a 7th Ed API implementation from scratch like it is. > > > > That's the part that's really on drugs by the time SCO is using it as > > evidence that there is a Linux pedigree or whatever that connects 7th Ed to > > Linux. > > > > I think the real story is that they want to make as much press as they can > > since it boosts their stock. > > > > Meanwhile every time they say they own UNIX they are complete liars because: > > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxqanda.html > > > > > > As the owners of the UNIX operating system, it is incumbent upon SCO to > > > > To what? Violate their agreements with The Open Group? > > > > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/23/1053585678840.html > > > > "Reference to the SCO web site shows that they own certain intellectual > > property and that they correctly attribute the trademark to The Open Group. > > SCO has never owned "UNIX". SCO is licensed to use the registered > > trademark UNIX "on and in connection" with their products that have been > > certified by The Open Group, as are all other licensees," the statement > > said. > > > > "These are the only circumstances in which a licensee may use the trademark > > UNIX on and in connection with its products. Statements that SCO 'owns the > > UNIX operating system', has 'licensed UNIX to XYZ' are clearly inaccurate > > and misleading." > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > http://calendar.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > TUHS mailing list > > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > > -- > Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?" > You ask, "What is the most important thing?" > Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata." > I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people." > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs