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[Gregg C Levine]

Test!
Sorry for the disturbance. Just a routine test message to confirm that
the list is awake. I haven't gotten anything since sometime in the past.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
"This signature wants to be playing in the snow!"

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[Greg Haerr]

> Sorry for the disturbance. Just a routine test message to confirm that
> the list is awake. I haven't gotten anything since sometime in the past.

Are you trying to wake us all up? - yes, I'm here!

Regards,

Greg

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[Gregg C Levine]

Hello again from Gregg C Levine
Oh I know everyone is awake. Except those of us who sleep for work <G> I
just haven't heard a squawk from the list since sometime last year. To
quote a phrase, "Watch this space!". I'll be posting some questions,
RSN.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net 
"This signature voted for the party from Naboo!"
Greg Haerr wrote:
> 
> > Sorry for the disturbance. Just a routine test message to confirm that
> > the list is awake. I haven't gotten anything since sometime in the past.
> 
> Are you trying to wake us all up? - yes, I'm here!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Greg

Some questions, was Re: [pups] Test

[Gregg C Levine]

Hello again from Gregg C Levine
Here are those questions:
1) What is the status of networking, with regards to the boot images?
2) Has anyone actually managed to dump the image that's contained within the
Soupnik collected UNIX versions to an actual disk?
3) Has anyone actually managed to build a kernel from that source code?
Either native, and on a Simh setup will do.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
"Oh my!" The Second Doctor's nearly favorite phrase.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregg C Levine" <drwho8@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Greg Haerr" <greg at wasatchmarine.com>
Cc: <pups at minnie.tuhs.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [pups] Test


> Hello again from Gregg C Levine
> Oh I know everyone is awake. Except those of us who sleep for work <G> I
> just haven't heard a squawk from the list since sometime last year. To
> quote a phrase, "Watch this space!". I'll be posting some questions,
> RSN.
> Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
> "This signature voted for the party from Naboo!"
> Greg Haerr wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for the disturbance. Just a routine test message to confirm that
> > > the list is awake. I haven't gotten anything since sometime in the
past.
> >
> > Are you trying to wake us all up? - yes, I'm here!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Greg
> _______________________________________________
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> PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org
> http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups
>

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[David Evans]

On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 06:36:28PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> 1) What is the status of networking, with regards to the boot images?

  The distribution doesn't include any networking IIRC.

> 2) Has anyone actually managed to dump the image that's contained within the
> Soupnik collected UNIX versions to an actual disk?

  Yep--that's how I got my system bootstrapped.  dd'd the image to a SCSI disk
and stuck it in my /73.

> 3) Has anyone actually managed to build a kernel from that source code?

  "That" being the stuff in the standard distribution?  Yes.

> "Oh my!" The Second Doctor's nearly favorite phrase.

  What, with "oh dear" and "oh, Jamie!" competing for the status of favourite?

-- 
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Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie     http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo         "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada           overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual

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[Gregg C Levine]

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Hello again from Gregg C Levine
Okay, that covers my questions for your department. Thank you, David.
 No networking? Why not? Can that be added? And how did you add the
source code disks?

And as for the comment, David, I just remember them, and write them
down. He did say those, and probably has them filed the way I
suggested. Mine second, your selection first, and third.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pups-admin at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin at minnie.tuhs.org]
On
> Behalf Of David Evans
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 6:53 PM
> To: Gregg C Levine
> Cc: pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: Re: Some questions, was Re: [pups] Test
> 
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 06:36:28PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> > 1) What is the status of networking, with regards to the boot
images?
> 
>   The distribution doesn't include any networking IIRC.
> 
> > 2) Has anyone actually managed to dump the image that's contained
within the
> > Soupnik collected UNIX versions to an actual disk?
> 
>   Yep--that's how I got my system bootstrapped.  dd'd the image to a
SCSI disk
> and stuck it in my /73.
> 
> > 3) Has anyone actually managed to build a kernel from that source
code?
> 
>   "That" being the stuff in the standard distribution?  Yes.
> 
> > "Oh my!" The Second Doctor's nearly favorite phrase.
> 
>   What, with "oh dear" and "oh, Jamie!" competing for the status of
favourite?
> 
> --
> David Evans          (NeXTMail/MIME OK)
dfevans at bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
> Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie
http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
> University of Waterloo         "Default is the value selected by the
composer
> Ontario, Canada           overridden by your command." - Roland
TR-707 Manual
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[David Evans]

On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 07:41:12PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote:
>  No networking? Why not?

  Don't know.  To save on space in the GENERIC kernel, likely.

> Can that be added?

  Yes.

> And how did you add the
> source code disks?
> 

  Hmmm...I'm trying to remember.  I *think* that there was actually networking
in the SIMH archive, while there is not in the generic install archive.

> And as for the comment, David, I just remember them, and write them
> down. He did say those, and probably has them filed the way I
> suggested. Mine second, your selection first, and third.

  Heh.

-- 
David Evans          (NeXTMail/MIME OK)             dfevans at bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie     http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo         "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada           overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual

[pups] Test

[Ian King]

Well, I recently posted an inquiry that was answered by complete silence.
:-)  (Not complete, actually - someone where I work showed up at my office
to discuss it!)  No worries, I found a DEQNA cable on eBay; of course, I had
to buy the DEQNA, too, but it never hurts to have spares.  That should be
here by the time I return from my next business trip (I leave tomorrow), and
I can begin the process of building a network-enabled 2.11BSD kernel for my
11/73.

I'm enjoying this: "my PDP-11 - oh, I mean the 11/73, not the 11/34"....  I
rearranged stuff and things so I have a VT-52 sitting on top of the 11/73's
cabinet, and the ADM-3a on the desk, connected to the 11/34.  I'm really
having second thoughts about the DECscope, though - clunky old piece of
s***, truth be told.  Maybe some artifacts of techology are better off
forgotten!

I'm also revisiting some old threads in which I'd participated, about Unix
v6 on the 11/34 - I'm having problems getting cc to work again, with the
error "can't find c0.lib".  Last time, someone suggested it was a memory
problem, and indeed the XXDP diagnostic found a memory defect.  This time,
XXDP doesn't show a memory problem.  I rebuilt my system disk from the
'sacred copy', but I'm seeing the same problem.  My next step is to boot
single-user and try it - but that's after I get back from The Road, too.

OK, did I contribute my quota of noise?  Cheers -- Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregg C Levine" <drwho8@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Greg Haerr" <greg at wasatchmarine.com>
Cc: <pups at minnie.tuhs.org>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [pups] Test


> Hello again from Gregg C Levine
> Oh I know everyone is awake. Except those of us who sleep for work <G> I
> just haven't heard a squawk from the list since sometime last year. To
> quote a phrase, "Watch this space!". I'll be posting some questions,
> RSN.
> Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
> "This signature voted for the party from Naboo!"
> Greg Haerr wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for the disturbance. Just a routine test message to confirm that
> > > the list is awake. I haven't gotten anything since sometime in the
past.
> >
> > Are you trying to wake us all up? - yes, I'm here!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Greg
> _______________________________________________
> PUPS mailing list
> PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org
> http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups

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[Bill Mayhew]

Oh, good... the silence is not my imagination!

        -Bill (resisting the temptation to send a simulated auto-reply ;-) )
__________________________________________
Bill Mayhew
The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily
represent those of Oracle Corporation.


-----Original Message-----
From: pups-admin@minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-admin@minnie.tuhs.org]On
Behalf Of Gregg C Levine
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 3:35 PM
To: pups at minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: [pups] Test


Test!
Sorry for the disturbance. Just a routine test message to confirm that
the list is awake. I haven't gotten anything since sometime in the past.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
"This signature wants to be playing in the snow!"

Some questions, was Re: [pups] Test

[Gregg C Levine]

Hello fron Gregg C Levine
Um no. I was thinking of V7, of the original UNIX. As it happens, I am still
not comfortable with the earlier versions of BSD. So, I am interested in
getting V7, or V6 to work via a networked environment. And yes, I have seen
your file, and the read me for it.
Gregg C Levine drwho8 at worldnet.att.net
"Oh my!" The Second Doctor's nearly favorite phrase.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andru Luvisi" <luvisi@andru.sonoma.edu>
To: "Gregg C Levine" <drwho8 at worldnet.att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Some questions, was Re: [pups] Test


> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> > Hello again from Gregg C Levine
> > Here are those questions:
> > 1) What is the status of networking, with regards to the boot images?
> > 2) Has anyone actually managed to dump the image that's contained within
the
> > Soupnik collected UNIX versions to an actual disk?
> > 3) Has anyone actually managed to build a kernel from that source code?
> > Either native, and on a Simh setup will do.
>
> If you are asking about 2.11BSD, I have managed to build a kernel with
> networking support which works on simh.  It is at:
> http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/PDP-11/Boot_Images/2.11_on_Simh/
>
> It's probably not suitable for a real PDP since it only supports RA/MSCP
> and ram disks, and TS tape drives.
>
> Andru
> --
> Andru Luvisi, Programmer/Analyst
>
>
> Quote Of The Moment:
>   I'm not normal.  I know it.  I don't care!
>        - Ace Of Base
>

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[Andru Luvisi]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello fron Gregg C Levine
> Um no. I was thinking of V7, of the original UNIX. As it happens, I am still
> not comfortable with the earlier versions of BSD. So, I am interested in
> getting V7, or V6 to work via a networked environment. And yes, I have seen
> your file, and the read me for it.

I recall V7 had UUCP and that some non-tcp/ip networking implementations
existed for it, but I have never heard of a tcp/ip stack for V7.  Does
such a thing exist?

Andru
-- 
Andru Luvisi, Programmer/Analyst

Quote Of The Moment:
  Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from
  mediocre minds.
                  -- Albert Einstein
  
  They laughed at Einstein.  They laughed at the Wright Brothers.
  But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
                  -- Carl Sagan

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[Fred N. van Kempen]

> I recall V7 had UUCP and that some non-tcp/ip networking 
> implementations existed for it,
Yes, various serial-networking based ones (early DECnet, X.25
and PacketNet stuff) and perhaps the multiplexer device stuff.

> but I have never heard of a tcp/ip stack for V7.  Does
> such a thing exist?
Nope, didnt fit in the address space.  As far as I know, the
earliest TCP/IP UNIX for PDP-11 was 2.10/2.11bsd.

--f