[pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated version of Simh

[pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated version of Simh

[Gregg C Levine]

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Hello from Gregg C Levine
Just out of curiosity, can the boot images stored in the folders that
are under that name, actually support this new version of Simh? That is
the PDP-11 emulator. What would be necessary to enable that function? It
looks as if one of them, is aware of the device, since I believe the
image was made on a machine which has the appropriate card installed in
it, but after that I'm lost. 
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[pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated version of Simh

[Andru Luvisi]

On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> Just out of curiosity, can the boot images stored in the folders that
> are under that name, actually support this new version of Simh? That is
> the PDP-11 emulator. What would be necessary to enable that function? It
> looks as if one of them, is aware of the device, since I believe the
> image was made on a machine which has the appropriate card installed in
> it, but after that I'm lost.

I would be happy to share mine, but it doesn't work.  ;-)

The thing that strikes me as really weird is that I know a guy who is
running VMS with networking on the simh VAX emulator.  As I understand it,
the the VAX and PDP-11 emulators use the same code for the ethernet
controller.

Andru
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[pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated version of Simh

[Fred N. van Kempen]

People,

DO note that the Ethernet operations of SimH heavily depend on the proper
workings AND configuration of a Packet Filter driver for your platform,
so, something like BPF, EFILT, NetFLT or WinPCAP (for Win32).  Try running
a test app for that stuff BEFORE trying to run SimH/ENET stuff.. if the
test app works OK, you can start figuring out why SimH/ENET doesn't work
on your system.

I have *three* network cards the drivers of which DO NOT support promisc
mode.  Which obviously results in WinPCAP (they're PCI cards under Win2K)
not functioning properly, and, thus, same for SimH/ENET.

--fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andru Luvisi [mailto:luvisi at andru.sonoma.edu]
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 8:02 AM
> To: gregg at levine.name
> Cc: pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: Re: [pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated 
> version of
> Simh
> 
> 
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> > Hello from Gregg C Levine
> > Just out of curiosity, can the boot images stored in the 
> folders that
> > are under that name, actually support this new version of 
> Simh? That is
> > the PDP-11 emulator. What would be necessary to enable that 
> function? It
> > looks as if one of them, is aware of the device, since I believe the
> > image was made on a machine which has the appropriate card 
> installed in
> > it, but after that I'm lost.
> 
> I would be happy to share mine, but it doesn't work.  ;-)
> 
> The thing that strikes me as really weird is that I know a guy who is
> running VMS with networking on the simh VAX emulator.  As I 
> understand it,
> the the VAX and PDP-11 emulators use the same code for the ethernet
> controller.
> 
> Andru
> -- 
> Andru Luvisi, Programmer/Analyst
> 
> Quote Of The Moment:
>   Truth is hard to find and harder to obscure.
> 
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[pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated version of Simh

[Andru Luvisi]

On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
> People,
>
> DO note that the Ethernet operations of SimH heavily depend on the proper
> workings AND configuration of a Packet Filter driver for your platform,
> so, something like BPF, EFILT, NetFLT or WinPCAP (for Win32).  Try running
> a test app for that stuff BEFORE trying to run SimH/ENET stuff.. if the
> test app works OK, you can start figuring out why SimH/ENET doesn't work
> on your system.
[snip]

A cursory glance at sim_ether.c makes it look like it uses libpcap, as
does tcpdump.  Does having tcpdump work count as a valid test?  If not,
can you suggest another program to try?

Andru
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[pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated version of Simh

[Andru Luvisi]

All righty.  I have:
  A working boot image for a networked 2.11BSD system inside simh.
  Some perl scripts for working with simh tape images.
  simh startup script for booting the networked image.
  simh startup script for booting from the install tape.
  Some basic instructions for how to get the thing going (not a substitute
    for reading the simh docs and knowing something about UNIX).

I emailed Warren but he seems to be unavailable right now.

So, who's got an archive I can upload it to?

Andru
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  universe."
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[pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated version of Simh

[Warren Toomey]

In article by Andru Luvisi:
> All righty.  I have:
>   A working boot image for a networked 2.11BSD system inside simh.
>   Some perl scripts for working with simh tape images.
>   simh startup script for booting the networked image.
>   simh startup script for booting from the install tape.
>   Some basic instructions for how to get the thing going (not a substitute
>     for reading the simh docs and knowing something about UNIX).
> 
> I emailed Warren but he seems to be unavailable right now.
> 
> So, who's got an archive I can upload it to?

Try anonymous ftp to minnie.tuhs.org, directory incoming/unix.

Sorry, I've been busy!
	Warren

[pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated version of Simh

[Fred N. van Kempen]

Warren,

Oh, I see Andru already uploaded it to Minnie as well.. OK..

Thanks, Andru!

--fred


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Toomey [mailto:wkt at minnie.tuhs.org]
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:08 AM
> To: Andru Luvisi
> Cc: pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: Re: [pups] Boot_Images and the networking activated 
> version of
> Simh
> 
> 
> In article by Andru Luvisi:
> > All righty.  I have:
> >   A working boot image for a networked 2.11BSD system inside simh.
> >   Some perl scripts for working with simh tape images.
> >   simh startup script for booting the networked image.
> >   simh startup script for booting from the install tape.
> >   Some basic instructions for how to get the thing going 
> (not a substitute
> >     for reading the simh docs and knowing something about UNIX).
> > 
> > I emailed Warren but he seems to be unavailable right now.
> > 
> > So, who's got an archive I can upload it to?
> 
> Try anonymous ftp to minnie.tuhs.org, directory incoming/unix.
> 
> Sorry, I've been busy!
> 	Warren
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